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Funguy wrote:OK mushroom ~ as they say in The Sun........... GOTCHA!

You're Hugh Carr-Archer

Ha-ha mushroom - I know our head coach is on gardening leave and there's someone called Lavelle in the team but this isn't Oakley School!

Scott Brehaut wrote:A quick look back through this thread would prove that he isn't Peter Masters....

I specifically asked mushroom two questions and you answer one of them?

Smithy1899 wrote:Just a few observations of our accounts:

Our long term liabilities are just under £4m and net assets (taking everything into consideration) -1,456,432. With a liquidity ratio of 0.3, current ratio of 0.3, shareholders liquidity ratio -0.37 and solvency ratio of -49.2 it appears we are in worse shape than I feared.

Those accounts were up to June 2014 when we were still under Thea's charge. Didn't she clear all those debts before handing over to Torquay Phoenix?

mushroom wrote: I spent a long time with Bill Phillips trying to get the right and best solution for our Club
Do you feel l should not disclose any further info ?

I don't claim to be an insider so I could be barking up the wrong tree. Wasn't Truro's chairman the person that Bill Phillips worked closest with to secure "the right and best solution for the club"?

So, mushroom, I challenge you to deny you are really Peter Masters, and also deny that you have any commercial interest in Plainmoor!

mushroom wrote:All Directors who have left have taken their investment when investment was made.

What sort of sentence is this? I can't work out what it means!

Are you still at school, mushroom?

mushroom wrote: Would any one on here work for nothing being over 200 miles from wife and daughters

The problem sits with DE and his ego and ridiculous salary he put himself on for 2 years the Club is trading insolvent and is weeks away from its demise

Cox seemed very keen to work 200 miles from his wife and daughters back in June, that's why he agreed to the job in the first place. He was in Torquay for at least a week before his appointment, wasn't he?! Maybe Mrs Cox isn't as keen on him being out of her sight anymore; or maybe its not her he's keen to get back to...

By the way, the club is not "trading insolvent and is weeks away from its demise". You lie!

Kit_robin wrote: This post probably tells a story of someone who is privy to a lot of information but lacks the knowledge to actually interpret it correctly. How anyone could think the council own our buildings is rather astonishing.

I will then pay great heed to the facts mushroom puts in his posts, (people are leaving etc.) but less stock in his interpretation of those facts (why people have left).

It does seem as if mushroom has a lot of knowledge of Paul Cox and Mansfield, but very little of Torquay. He's not connected to John Radford, perchance, is he?

Or could mushroom be Paul Cox' agent?!

BayGull wrote:My worry is - if the TUST were to obtain ownership .. how would they then pay all the bills with a membership of 2/3/4/500?

Jayzuz HC, how dumb do you have to be?! Why don't you understand how Community Ownership works, BayGull? It doesn't mean the trust members chucking fivers into a bucket every week until their bank stops their overdraft. You have read the SD pages, haven't you? Oh, that's the problem - not enough brain cells to understand the concept.

Did you read this at the end of the WMN article: "“It would be awful if we’re sitting here in nine months’ time and the club has gone into administration and we as a community haven’t made any attempt."

Give me strength. Our club needs supporters now, not fans sticking their heads in the sand.

Pea wrote:I don't get it though, a seven day ban to reflect on the fact he used an adjective that one individual (come on guys, hector is the only one who has made a fuss here is he not), took the wrong way.......

Why don't you ask him yourself? Or are you really Matt using Pea's profile?

Matt made a racist comment because he referenced a person by his skin colour and inferred that there was a natural connection between all people of that skin colour. You can use any dictionary definition you want (thanks Rooster) but the proof of the proverbial pudding is in its daily use and that use of a racial identifier is pejorative. To suggest that it is not racist is at best naive and, at worst, condoning its use. If he had said that Elliot Benyon worked especially well with the other white guys, the same charge could be levelled - but don't forget that we live in a predominately white society.

And don't even try the ginger hair analogy, it doesn't work.

So we'll put it to bed and allow Matt to return with his casual racism - he does have history as we all know. I don't really know whether an ethnic minority thinks that casual racism is better than overt racism: one person I know said that at least it wasn't aggressive while another person I've asked said that it's all racism, just to different degrees.

There's not a workplace in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Leeds, Bristol (and any other city in this country) that would allow an employee to comment that another employee gets on well with the other black guys without the first employee being invited into their supervisor's office for a lesson in racial equality. Anyone who really thinks that the phrase wasn't racist can't live in a particularly multi-racial environment.

Having said that, it was almost worth it for the best oxymoron I've seen for a long time: Greybeardedgull's "pure Anglo-Saxon." Simply brilliant!

Well done to Hector for refusing to allow it to pass by uncommented and shame on the any of you for trying to pretend there was nothing wrong with it. Torquayfans.com has managed to earn a reputation for racism over recent months and the response to Matt's comment is one of the major reasons why that reputation will be difficult to shed.