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Congratulations to Nicho on his appointment. As with the hiring of Chris Hargreaves, he will need much guidance and support in negotiating the complexities of the transfer market, man-management and finance: I wonder where that is going to come from given that the club appears to be in the hands of enthusiastic fans, rather than people with experience of running a professional football club.
One possible source of expertise could be Colin Lee who had already recruited Nicholson for a part-time coaching role with his operation at Chelsea. The problem with some of the loudest among the posters on this forum is that they are so sensitive (paranoid?) that they are too ready to kick up a s**tstorm at the mention of anyone who has had success at the club in the past and moved on. They appear to think that the Paul Buckles of this world, for example, have snubbed them personally when they seek to build their professional careers. This anger seems to have been a recent development; I don't remember such hostility towards Frank O'Farrell and others who moved on to great things. Brucie's outrage at Nicholson's appointment is even less appropriate in view of the fact that Kevin is seeking to develop his career at the club Brucie purports to love.

Kit_robin wrote:No, he's rubbish.

Cor. You must think you're good, Kit Robin.

There may have been one or two man-management issues last season which resulted in under-performance by a couple of players and CH may have been a bit rash in letting Nico go but he's got a contract, he won't have the appalling Dean Edwards breathing down his neck and he's a good coach.

I'm pleased that my advice in June regarding Kenny Vesey was followed; let the board give due consideration to Greavsie and they may find they solve more than one problem.

As for Taxi Lady's gloomy prediction about the behaviour of some of the more cretinous fans, she's obviously taken in too many drunken passengers and has formed a dark view of human nature.

First, congratulations to Dean Edwards for leading a new consortium into a position which guarantees football at Plainmoor next season. After so many years in the cloakroom, it must be a joy to have made it to the kitchen. Let's hope his recipes don't empty the restaurant.

Like many others who have seen owners come and go, I have, during the sixty years I've been attending matches, home and away, supporting the club through thick and thin, been hoping the club would enter a phase of more broad-based ownership through some such outfit as the Supporters' Trust. The current board should obtain the backing of TUST. There's not really much choice.

Disappointingly, the rhetoric which has accompanied the takeover does not augur well for the club under the new regime. 'No more namby pamby' sadly implies a return, not to the eighties as Edwards implies but to the mindless, turgid approach of Juan Knill. If it were a return to the eighties we might hope for the spirit of 'Back to the Future', whose message was respect and fun. Instead, I fear a return to 'Jurassic Park'.

If I want to see a ball booted upfield and players knocked over like bowling pins, I'll be off up the road to Sandy Park, or even check out the more affordable Tics at the Rec.

The reason those of us who chose the round ball code as youngsters prefer football is because of the artistry, athleticism, speed and vision it encourages; the reason modern coaches like Chris Hargreaves are succeeding (viz Eddie Howe at Bournemouth) is because they value skill and respect their players. Recall Hargreaves from gardening leave immediately. Unfortunately, defensive coach, Lee Hodges, has proved to be not up to the job at this level so he need not put away his spade just yet but Ken Veysey has a really good record in bringing out the best from his charges and deserves to return from the allotment.

Support grows when teams play well under positive leadership, success comes when confidence grows as gates grow. Let's hope Deano can look beyond the unambitious horizon he has suggested and recall the spirit of Wembley where I and my sons saw him score two important goals for United against Bolton and Blackpool.
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I repeat: Recall Chris Hargreaves from gardening leave immediately.

I'm certainly not moaning, Brucie, simply reacting to Dean Edwards' manifesto. I, too, hope that he's not as good as his word because people will not pay good money to watch rubbish as Alan Knill's time in charge proved. A true supporter asks questions rather than behave as turnstile fodder.

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Well, dannyrvtufc4life, are you sure that the 'return to the eighties' comment is anything more than an old pro looking back at his own playing days through rose-tinted glasses before embarking upon a less than illustrious management career?

First, congratulations to Dean Edwards for leading a new consortium into a position which guarantees football at Plainmoor next season. After so many years in the cloakroom, it must be a joy to have made it to the kitchen. Let's hope his recipes don't empty the restaurant.

Like many others who have seen owners come and go, I have, during the sixty years I've been attending matches, home and away, supporting the club through thick and thin, been hoping the club would enter a phase of more broad-based ownership through some such outfit as the Supporters' Trust. The current board should obtain the backing of TUST. There's not really much choice.

Disappointingly, the rhetoric which has accompanied the takeover does not augur well for the club under the new regime. 'No more namby pamby' sadly implies a return, not to the eighties as Edwards implies but to the mindless, turgid approach of Juan Knill. If it were a return to the eighties we might hope for the spirit of 'Back to the Future', whose message was respect and fun. Instead, I fear a return to 'Jurassic Park'.

If I want to see a ball booted upfield and players knocked over like bowling pins, I'll be off up the road to Sandy Park, or even check out the more affordable Tics at the Rec.

The reason those of us who chose the round ball code as youngsters prefer football is because of the artistry, athleticism, speed and vision it encourages; the reason modern coaches like Chris Hargreaves are succeeding (viz Eddie Howe at Bournemouth) is because they value skill and respect their players. Recall Hargreaves from gardening leave immediately. Unfortunately, defensive coach, Lee Hodges, has proved to be not up to the job at this level so he need not put away his spade just yet but Ken Veysey has a really good record in bringing out the best from his charges and deserves to return from the allotment.

Support grows when teams play well under positive leadership, success comes when confidence grows as gates grow. Let's hope Deano can look beyond the unambitious horizon he has suggested and recall the spirit of Wembley where I and my sons saw him score two important goals for United against Bolton and Blackpool.

If it were done when tis done, twere well it were done quickly.

To supplement Rooster's excellent stats, Paul Buckle's League Two performance over two seasons at Plainmoor (excluding play-offs) is 1.37 points per match.

A lover of bright red Ferraris
Seems wedded to visions of Knill:
Borrowing bods near and far is
A route leading, surely, downhill.
Recruiting a squad at the bar is
A cocktail devoid of real skill..
(..or spirit, or roots, or midfield creativity,
or a brand of football worth shelling out for
every other week).