Torquay United Fans Forum

happytorq wrote: Oh, how boring, you've come on an posted something sensible and worthwhile. You've foisted shame upon your city

I'm just a bit confused as to where all this money is coming from; I thought Rovers were skint. I mean, we're not exactly loaded but assuming we get promoted our playing budget would increase; and given that Buckle's ambitions are so high - higher than Bristol Rovers, I'm sure - it wouldn't be a bad move for him to stay. I think he'd get more credit and kudos for keeping us in League 1 than he would in getting Rovers promoted; and I don't see Rovers in the Championship for at least 4-5 seasons (and that's assuming it all goes well!).

I know we're getting very hypothetical here, but say we go up, and say Buckle stays, and keeps us up - he could have his pick of League 1 vacancies in 2012-2013, and probably have a fair shot at a Championship team. Imagine if a 'big' side from the Championship came down - he'd be perfectly placed to take that gig.

I'm not here to give Rovers a hard time - to be honest I don't really care about them either way - I honestly cannot see going there as a brilliant move for him if we go up. Of course, if we miss out on promotion, all bets are off and we're in sh*t street.

Rovers definately aint loaded thats for sure. They do have some money behind them though (or the board members do), spending money on several managers will tell you that. I think the club is in debt, but this is to their own board members. They loan the club money and then screw them over for several years whilst the club pays them back. They have made literally MILLIONS over the last 20 years, selling some good players but have nothing to show for it. Basically the poor blue few are being robbed left right and center (not that I mind ). I will be gutted when they eventually get their stadium (if it ever happens) as they could turn them from poor side playing in a dump into a real contender for championship football, and whilst i love the rivalry, i also love watching them mope about below us making excuses as to why they are below us lol.

Buckle could definately do better if he does manage to get you to league one, but if someone offered you a massive pay rise now, would you turn it down to wait and see if another offer comes in a few years time? I know I wouldnt

Parry wrote: 1. You're not a sleeping giant. Bradford city are sleeping giants. Your city is pretty big but it is shared by a club 3 times the size of yours.
2. Rovers are definately not a championship side, they belong somewhere between league 1 and league 2.
3. That's right, you are a small league 2 club, not "sleeping giants".
4. That's right you're 2 divisions below Bristol City and to everyone who doesn't support Bristol Rovers, that seems a reasonable gap. Your club is tiny compared to Bristol City, always has been always will be. Get over it.
5. Yes rovers are going places, it was confirmed on the 7th may. To your point that reads "be honest with yourselves Torquay will always be at this level", I'd like to bring back point '2.' These 2 points (2 and 5) show the naivety and hypocrisy of you gas heads clear as day. You come onto another teams message board and say how we should be honest with ourselves... after saying that Rovers should be in the championship !!

In summary I'd like to just mention what I've highlighted in red. The reason you will never be a big club is there to see. Your club is tiny compared to city. They have a bigger ground than you (yes you might be getting a new one,but this is yet to be confirmed), they have a fan base 3 or 4 times bigger than yours and they have always enjoyed a lot more success than you. Like I said before, GET OVER IT and stop pretending.

Bristol city fan here

I dislike Rovers as much as the next person, but its fair to say Rovers do have far more potential than most clubs in league two (if not all of them) as they currently live in a beautiful city such a Bristol, and with greater Bristol currently housing over one million people, they would not be short of fans on a regular basis should they ever get any good at football lol. They did afterall take over 40,000 twice in one season to Wembly and do have a hardcore set of 6000 fans turn up regularly, which for league two, is a decent crowd size I believe. Buckle wouldnt be a fool to leave Torquay for Rovers. Sure he could play league one football should you get promoted, but he would earn probably treble what he earns with you lot currently, and have a massive playing budget in comparison to yours which would be very interesting to any manager. He would also get more media attention being with Rovers, and if what said above is true (living in Bristol) would be closer to home. I do agree he may be on a hiding to none though if he doesnt start off on a good note as they have a tendancy to get nasty with their players and managers if things dont go their way

I would also just like to say (whilst it pains me to say it) we are NOT a massive side in comparison to Rovers. We are a bigger club, no doubt, but we have always had the luck of a big backer behind us. Rovers always seem to have a dodgy milkman running the show for them, who always take take take and never give anything back. They currently play in a dump and are being screwed left right and center by the milkman but we have always been in or around them in terms of league position and history.

Anyway, good luck with your play offs, and if the unfortunate happens and you dont go up, please thump those turds :~D