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Quite right. It's easy for football fans to spout off all kinds of differing opinions, but few if any are privy to all the problems and options and decisions the manager has to deal with on a daily, weekly and monthly basis. The club has put us in a position of optimism and hope which we've not had for a long time. Rather than respond with criticism and negativity, surely we should now give the new manager time to make his vision a reality and back him fully in his efforts, as well as fully support the team on the pitch regardless of who is actually playing.
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Gullscorer wrote:Quite right. It's easy for football fans to spout off all kinds of differing opinions, but few if any are privy to all the problems and options and decisions the manager has to deal with on a daily, weekly and monthly basis. The club has put us in a position of optimism and hope which we've not had for a long time. Rather than respond with criticism and negativity, surely we should now give the new manager time to make his vision a reality and back him fully in his efforts, as well as fully support the team on the pitch regardless of who is actually playing.
Absolutely right and just a pity it took 7 pages. I still think Mr Hargreaves is barking to have taken the manager job at this club! Far too much expertise on the terraces! ;-)
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Gullscorer wrote:Quite right. It's easy for football fans to spout off all kinds of differing opinions, but few if any are privy to all the problems and options and decisions the manager has to deal with on a daily, weekly and monthly basis. The club has put us in a position of optimism and hope which we've not had for a long time. Rather than respond with criticism and negativity, surely we should now give the new manager time to make his vision a reality and back him fully in his efforts, as well as fully support the team on the pitch regardless of who is actually playing.
Spot on, our new manager doesn't need advice from people who don't know their proverbial ar*es from their elbows.
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Only managers that are popular with supporters should be trusted though. If they aren't popular, it's fair game to question every decision they make...
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gullintwoplaces wrote: Spot on, our new manager doesn't need advice from people who don't know their proverbial ar*es from their elbows.



Perhaps if Alan Knill had been a regular viewer of this forum he may still be in a job though. :~D
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Yeah, he could definitely have learned a thing or two from some of this forums regular posters.
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You say that sarcastically Fonda but in all seriousness Knill COULD have kept himself in a job by listening what we had to say on here, even the permanently negative were proved right about a lot of things.
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In fairness, none of us holds themselves out (apart from Arcadia, who, despite knowing precious little about anything, seemed to indicate that he was SAF himself) as a professional manager. All we do here is chuck opinions about and occasionally back them up with stats (which may or may not be irrelevant and certainly don't tell the whole story). Anyone taking this place as anything more or less than that wants their head examining.

That said, Ben has made some excellent posts today, especially with regard to Nico and Danny.

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Well if 90% of the fans who post on here are coming up with the same reasons as to why the manager isn't doing well then I'd suggest that if I was the manager and I had no idea then I'd like to know so that I could work on these issues and put them right. It's like tripadvisor, if 90% of visitors say somewhere is a complete dump and a handful say it's ok then in all likelihood it is probably a complete dump. So the hotel proprietor goes online to tripadvisor, reads that 90% of visitors have roughly the same sort of complaints and then he addresses them and puts them right thus saving his business and reputation. Tripadvisor, like on here is always bound to chuck up a few knobheads so a few percent of users can be taken with a pinch of salt but if the majority are coming up with the same complaints then perhaps it is not unreasonable to suggest that those complaints are in fact the ACTUAL problems that need solving.
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AustrianAntheaGull wrote:Well if 90% of the fans who post on here are coming up with the same reasons as to why the manager isn't doing well then I'd suggest that if I was the manager and I had no idea then I'd like to know so that I could work on these issues and put them right. It's like tripadvisor, if 90% of visitors say somewhere is a complete dump and a handful say it's ok then in all likelihood it is probably a complete dump. So the hotel proprietor goes online to tripadvisor, reads that 90% of visitors have roughly the same sort of complaints and then he addresses them and puts them right thus saving his business and reputation. Tripadvisor, like on here is always bound to chuck up a few knobheads so a few percent of users can be taken with a pinch of salt but if the majority are coming up with the same complaints then perhaps it is not unreasonable to suggest that those complaints are in fact the ACTUAL problems that need solving.
A few..?? :O =D
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The thing is, whatever the percentage of people agreeing on here is, the only person making fully informed decisions is the manager. Whatever seems obvious to us, would perhaps not be so obvious if we were in possession of all the facts. We simply don't know who has trained particularly well, who is not 100% fit, which players we've tried unsuccessfully to sign. It doesn't matter how much of an idiot we might consider a manager to be, there is a good chance some of those 'ridiculous' decisions are being forced upon him. They are the professionals, we are not. And whilst we're all entitled to an opinion, we shouldn't start to believe that we know best .
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Fonda wrote:The thing is, whatever the percentage of people agreeing on here is, the only person making fully informed decisions is the manager. Whatever seems obvious to us, would perhaps not be so obvious if we were in possession of all the facts. We simply don't know who has trained particularly well, who is not 100% fit, his many players we've tried unsuccessfully to sign. It doesn't matter his much I an idiot we might consider a manager to be, there is a good chance some if those 'ridiculous' decisions are being forced upon him. They are the professionals, we are not. And whilst we're all entitled to an opinion, we shouldn't start to believe that we know best .
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Gullscorer wrote: :goodpost:
Would have been better, if not for thousands of typos. Damn phone. But thanks. ;-)
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Fonda wrote:The thing is, whatever the percentage of people agreeing on here is, the only person making fully informed decisions is the manager. Whatever seems obvious to us, would perhaps not be so obvious if we were in possession of all the facts. We simply don't know who has trained particularly well, who is not 100% fit, which players we've tried unsuccessfully to sign. It doesn't matter how much of an idiot we might consider a manager to be, there is a good chance some of those 'ridiculous' decisions are being forced upon him. They are the professionals, we are not. And whilst we're all entitled to an opinion, we shouldn't start to believe that we know best .
I completely agree, very coherent and 100% right. Some folk on here mix up dreams and reality constantly, just like Father Dougal Maguire, but the problem is that they think the dreams are real even when they are barking mad.
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