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Never Give Up.
I am amazed that so many fans have given up all hope.
If, and I know it is a huge if, we take 12 points from the next 6 games all this month we could still figure in a dramatic final 6 games ending at home to Wycombe on May 3rd.
History is littered with great escapes. Our Home record is shocking we cannot score but we cannot give up without a fight.
Exeter are in freefall and we still have to visit them. Please do not give up hope. We are not good BUT we are not being thrashed by anyone other than Hartlepool away.
We will probably know our fate by 29th March but in the meantime keep the faith.
If, and I know it is a huge if, we take 12 points from the next 6 games all this month we could still figure in a dramatic final 6 games ending at home to Wycombe on May 3rd.
History is littered with great escapes. Our Home record is shocking we cannot score but we cannot give up without a fight.
Exeter are in freefall and we still have to visit them. Please do not give up hope. We are not good BUT we are not being thrashed by anyone other than Hartlepool away.
We will probably know our fate by 29th March but in the meantime keep the faith.
Nice sentiment. The team is averaging 0.88 points per game = 40 points from 46 games and relegation, face facts we have to win 8 of our 12 games, at an average of just over 1.9 points per game, we've had our great escapes, can be done, in this case, a flight of fancy.
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Quite simply we ARE the worst team in this god awful league, we are where we deserve to be. We are conference bound and the sooner people accept that the better.
Time for Greavsie to start focusing on what he will need next year in the Conference, which means forgetting the loanees (O'Connor and Showumni) as they are other teams players, forget those that won't be here next season (Labadoe and Cooper) and put the focus on those that are ou of contract in the summer and on whom decisions must be made.
I would start by recalling Craig, Yeoman and Thompson and at least have a closer look at them. I would also consider making some of those under contract next year but who are unlikely to be in the Manager's plans, available for loan .... you can take your pick from half a dozen or so as to who that might apply.
We are saddled with the wages of quite a few high earners for next year already with the likes of Pearce, Downes, Harding, Benyon and Hawley which means that anyone who is out of contract will either be released or offer seriously reduced wages. With that in mind, I would expect the likes of Poke and Bodin to move on and you would expect that Mansell and Nicholson will probably be released ... we simply will not be able to afford them, whether they are even deserving of another contract is of course another matter.
Time for Greavsie to start focusing on what he will need next year in the Conference, which means forgetting the loanees (O'Connor and Showumni) as they are other teams players, forget those that won't be here next season (Labadoe and Cooper) and put the focus on those that are ou of contract in the summer and on whom decisions must be made.
I would start by recalling Craig, Yeoman and Thompson and at least have a closer look at them. I would also consider making some of those under contract next year but who are unlikely to be in the Manager's plans, available for loan .... you can take your pick from half a dozen or so as to who that might apply.
We are saddled with the wages of quite a few high earners for next year already with the likes of Pearce, Downes, Harding, Benyon and Hawley which means that anyone who is out of contract will either be released or offer seriously reduced wages. With that in mind, I would expect the likes of Poke and Bodin to move on and you would expect that Mansell and Nicholson will probably be released ... we simply will not be able to afford them, whether they are even deserving of another contract is of course another matter.
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sorry portugull.
we will know our sad fate long before the end of this month.
we will know our sad fate long before the end of this month.
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This is just the thing. We're not the worst side in the division, not by a long way. We're one striker short. We're no worse than almost any other side in L2, but we can't hit a cow's arse. That's what's cost us our league status. If we get Reid on loan instead of his going to Plymouth, we are in the Playoffs.
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It would probably need 8 wins from 12 games.
Not totally impossible but hardly likely for a team that's only won 7 all season.
If we were to beat Rochdale & Cheltenham, then with Bury at home the next game, and still Exeter, Mansfield & Wycombe to play, things would look a bit different.
It seems that effort and possesion aren't the problem, just a bit of luck and most of all the ability to put the ball in the net.
If like most fans, the team have given up, then we have no hope at all.
If they make one more supreme effort and beat Rochdale on Tuesday then perhaps that could be the start of a run.
Staying up is very much a long shot now but I don't think it's right to give up all hope yet. As I say, two wins this week, however unlikely that seems, would bring us back into the fight.
Not totally impossible but hardly likely for a team that's only won 7 all season.
If we were to beat Rochdale & Cheltenham, then with Bury at home the next game, and still Exeter, Mansfield & Wycombe to play, things would look a bit different.
It seems that effort and possesion aren't the problem, just a bit of luck and most of all the ability to put the ball in the net.
If like most fans, the team have given up, then we have no hope at all.
If they make one more supreme effort and beat Rochdale on Tuesday then perhaps that could be the start of a run.
Staying up is very much a long shot now but I don't think it's right to give up all hope yet. As I say, two wins this week, however unlikely that seems, would bring us back into the fight.
We have taken 1 point from the last 6 games, How do you think we are going to suddenly find 12 points from the next 6 games ?
Add into the mix, that the side with the next poorest run of form is 10 points in front of us, and the other sides in the mix have all found the ability to start winning. In 6 games time, with current form, we will already be relegated.
Add into the mix, that the side with the next poorest run of form is 10 points in front of us, and the other sides in the mix have all found the ability to start winning. In 6 games time, with current form, we will already be relegated.
We are the worst team in this league. By a mile.ferrarilover wrote:This is just the thing. We're not the worst side in the division, not by a long way. We're one striker short. We're no worse than almost any other side in L2, but we can't hit a cow's arse. That's what's cost us our league status. If we get Reid on loan instead of his going to Plymouth, we are in the Playoffs.
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I won't give up till it's mathematically impossible we just hve to start scoring, could it happen?
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Be lucky to get 1300 on Tuesday night. Greeks play Northampton at Sid James and if they lose that a" Devon double" will look increasingly likely. Neither they or us can win at home and if you can't do that ,you're in big trouble.A win would do wonders for morale but Rochdale are far better than Fleetwood imo,and its hard to see how we will get anything-yet again,
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and for one that reason we actually are.ferrarilover wrote:This is just the thing. We're not the worst side in the division, not by a long way. We're one striker short. We're no worse than almost any other side in L2, but we can't hit a cow's arse. That's what's cost us our league status. If we get Reid on loan instead of his going to Plymouth, we are in the Playoffs.
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oh dont worry we will.PlainmoorRoar wrote:I won't give up till it's mathematically impossible we just hve to start scoring, could it happen?
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There have been times when we have played Saturday-Tuesday at home and won both games. Two wins in a week. Can you imagine that? Actually winning, for one, and winning twice in three days.
We have won twice in almost ELEVEN MONTHS at home. Unbelievable, really.
We have won twice in almost ELEVEN MONTHS at home. Unbelievable, really.
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I don’t think we will stay up. I think it’s very unlikely partly from the simply mathematical situation but mainly because we can’t score goals. But it is possible and a change to good rather than bad fortune might help us to wins in the next two matches, then things would start to look different. We need a run and games are fast running out but it could be done.
With Torquay though you never know.
I’ve seen us win or draw to stay up on the last day against Crewe, Barnet, Boston & Bristol Rovers. – all in seasons where we looked to be heading out the league. I’ve seen an unlikely promotion at Southend, a last day relegation from League One where we seemed doomed a few weeks earlier, fought back to get it into our own hands, then threw it away at Colchester. We’ve thrown away promotion as many times as we’ve escaped from relegation. We’ve got to Wembley more times than most Premier League teams but only won twice. We’ve played superbly in play offs and we’ve thrown them away (Exeter being the worst). We’ve been kept saved by a technicality over Stevenage’s ground and a police dog.
Clearly it is long odds on that we’ll be in the Conference next year and worryingly that is a league that’s increasingly hard to get out of. I’ve only been to three games this season and quite understand that those who go regularly can judge far better how good or bad the team is. I don’t dispute that but while there is still some hope I’m not giving up.
And by the way I haven’t seen us lose this season – wins at Dagenham & Wimbledon and draw with Plymouth. I’m going to Cheltenham and if we start winning will do most if not all the remaining always. Sadly it is far more likely that Cheltenham will be the day that even the most optimistic of us have to finally give up any hope.
With Torquay though you never know.
I’ve seen us win or draw to stay up on the last day against Crewe, Barnet, Boston & Bristol Rovers. – all in seasons where we looked to be heading out the league. I’ve seen an unlikely promotion at Southend, a last day relegation from League One where we seemed doomed a few weeks earlier, fought back to get it into our own hands, then threw it away at Colchester. We’ve thrown away promotion as many times as we’ve escaped from relegation. We’ve got to Wembley more times than most Premier League teams but only won twice. We’ve played superbly in play offs and we’ve thrown them away (Exeter being the worst). We’ve been kept saved by a technicality over Stevenage’s ground and a police dog.
Clearly it is long odds on that we’ll be in the Conference next year and worryingly that is a league that’s increasingly hard to get out of. I’ve only been to three games this season and quite understand that those who go regularly can judge far better how good or bad the team is. I don’t dispute that but while there is still some hope I’m not giving up.
And by the way I haven’t seen us lose this season – wins at Dagenham & Wimbledon and draw with Plymouth. I’m going to Cheltenham and if we start winning will do most if not all the remaining always. Sadly it is far more likely that Cheltenham will be the day that even the most optimistic of us have to finally give up any hope.
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Either you have drunk 12 bottles of port or downed 60 jäger bombs, to believe we are staying up. Seriously get real.portugull wrote:I am amazed that so many fans have given up all hope.
If, and I know it is a huge if, we take 12 points from the next 6 games all this month we could still figure in a dramatic final 6 games ending at home to Wycombe on May 3rd.
History is littered with great escapes. Our Home record is shocking we cannot score but we cannot give up without a fight.
Exeter are in freefall and we still have to visit them. Please do not give up hope. We are not good BUT we are not being thrashed by anyone other than Hartlepool away.
We will probably know our fate by 29th March but in the meantime keep the faith.
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