LOL.....PMSL...K....NOBferrarilover wrote:This is brilliant. We live in a nation where it's pretty much the rudest thing you can do to mention money. I daren't even ask my own mother her salary, because it would be such terribly poor form. Yet here we are, on the internet, expecting intimate details of exactly who spends exactly what at the club. It's genius, you couldn't make it up. That absolutely no other business in the world has ever released this sort of information (because it would, presumably, be business suicide) is irrelevant, as soon as Torquay United act in exactly that manner, "the internet" becomes abuzz with people using it as a stick to beat.
As for the "standard of football" we've seen under Hargreaves, I'm afraid some of you have been watching a different team from me. I've watched us dominate entirely almost every minute of every game since Chris arrived. This is markedly different from the approach taken by a number of our other recent managers, who preferred to see us dominated and play on the break or with the long ball. That we've failed to score in a number of matches is a separate issue, but the football we play to create chances for Benyon to squander is a cut above anything I've seen anyone else stick together against us since Hargreaves took over. Now, I'm not saying it's like watching Brasil, but we can only judge ourselves against those around us and, I'm very much afraid, for the last couple of months, we've (by and large) been better than all of them at all bar the one crucial task of sticking it in the onion bag. That's why this relegation hurts so much, because there's no need for us to go down. We're not the worst side in the division, not even close, what we lack is a goalscorer.
And finally, on communication, what is it that we wanted Chris to say different form that which he has said? He said they should have been down to 10 after about 9 seconds and he's right. He's said that there have been big decisions which have gone against us and he's right (the tackle on Bodin against Northants, the failure to dismiss about 6 Dagenham players on Friday, the failure to give a penalty in that game for a very, very clear handball, the failure to spot an equally obvious handball in the Southend game, the criminal decision to dismiss Goodwin, and the same with Stockley and they're just the ones I've thought of in the last 10 seconds). Their manager has said we should have won the match comfortably and he's right. He's been castigated as being "unprofessional", but you tell me what's worse, Chris making his comments after having had 24 hours to reflect, or running to the post-match presser and behaving like Jose Mourinho did after Chelsea's defeat. Both similar matches, both games in which one side hammered the other and the other got extremely lucky. Two totally different reactions. Which one is appearing on the back pages? Which manager is being called a classless **** by basically everyone in the world? Which one has embarrassed himself, his club and his players?
Also, talking about depression isn't really that "brave" is it? Surely, in England in 2014, it's about as brave as a black guy walking down a street in a town in Georgia or a woman turning up at the polls. You don't give a sh*t if someone's depressed and nor does anyone you know. The odd knuckledragger who does is too busy cashing his Giro and auditioning for Benefits Street to pay any particular attention to an article written by a bloke he's never heard of, published on a website he doesn't use. Nope,I#m afraid that bravery is reserved for firefighters and Royal Marines.
Matt.
This is nonsense. No football team tries to have one penalty in a match and **** all else. They got in our half once all match and, to be honest, against anyone else, they'd have been about 5-0 down when they did so. If we got outplayed like Dagenham did on Friday, this place would be packed to the rafters with people moaning about how we didn't threaten all match and were well lucky not to have been hammered.Jeff wrote:It's laughable to suggest we've dominated games recently, certainly none of the ones I've seen. More likely that other teams were quite happy to let us waft the ball around aimlessly because we had absolutely zero threat of scoring.
That's ironic isn't ityellowwot1 wrote: LOL.....PMSL...K....NOB
I suppose we are to presume if CH is unable to keep his cool and emotions in check long enough to not embarrass himself in front of the radio Devon presenters (who have made it very easy for him so far) then his second in command was in the same state of delirium and unable to talk also? He already stated the players are not intelligent enough to comment but surely his number 2 could have at.least contributed and faced the press and supporters.stefano wrote: Although when CH did press interviews way back when he said that every week!
Certainly in the games I've been to under Hargreaves (Oxford, Hartlepool, York, Chesterfield away) and home to Newport and Accrington we have been absolutely appalling and didn't deserve to win any of them let alone score a goal. We had about 2 or 3 clear cut goalscoring opportunities that I can remember in all of them combined. In fact the Chesterfield game was the exception as we matched them for 60 odd minutes and got the Shamir goal and also Wilkinson hit the woodwork and should have scored another and I was impressed with that 60 minutes. Other than that we have thoroughly deserved to lose each game I've seen and played football much worse than under Knill if that were possible.Jeff wrote:It's laughable to suggest we've dominated games recently, certainly none of the ones I've seen. More likely that other teams were quite happy to let us waft the ball around aimlessly because we had absolutely zero threat of scoring.
You're right, Matt. Absolutely agree with you, except (just nit-picking here, pedant that I am) I would have used the word 'employment' instead of 'employ'. Perhaps I, like most of us, have been too ready to ignore the good points of the team's performances under CH, whilst focussing solely on the bad results. The margins between success and failure in any field can be very narrow, and it may need only a small change or two, such as you've suggested, to turn things around for next season.Users browsing this forum: A Realist, desperado, North Curry House, TUFCfan, Vick and 98 guests
