'The Hunt': You must see this brilliant, stunning, devastating film. If there's any justice it will win an Oscar in 2014:
False rape/abuse accusations
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I thought it appropriate to post on this thread rather than a new one. Paul Gambaccini's new book, 'Love, Paul Gambaccini', describes his experiences of the police investigation and the CPS after being falsely accused in 2013, and how police and the media invite people to make accusations, how the police are ordered to accept even the flakiest accusations as the absolute truth, how they simply need two or more such accusations to bring a case to court without any actual evidence, how they bundle together the flimsiest and weakest counts to make a number of innocuous events appear as part of a stronger case. His contempt for Alison Saunders, the ideological feminist in charge of the CPS echoes my own, and he rightly describes the witch hunts encouraged by her as a reign of terror against the innocent people affected.
If you're sceptical, read the book, or listen to this interview on the Jeremy Vine Show, available until 15 October: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b069gc4y
If you're sceptical, read the book, or listen to this interview on the Jeremy Vine Show, available until 15 October: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b069gc4y
Evidence? With regards the police, because as we all know the media will jump on ANY kind of headline, this is not unique to rape claims.Gullscorer wrote:how police and the media invite people to make accusations,
As above. Someone who was falsely accused and therefore has a grievance against the police force is not a reliable witness.Gullscorer wrote:how the police are ordered to accept even the flakiest accusations as the absolute truth
'Simply' need TWO accusations against somebody to bring a case to court? If we use your own theft/burglary analogy, an eyewitness account and a fingerprint at the scene would be two pieces of evidence, this would lead to prosecution. These are effectively TWO eyewitness accounts, and as Matt discussed earlier finding 'hard' evidence in rape cases is notoriously difficult. It is not likely to be seen, caught on camera, or leave any physical trace, particularly if a period of time has passed after the assault.Gullscorer wrote: how they simply need two or more such accusations to bring a case to court without any actual evidence
This is known as correlation and is used statistically in any kind of crime, again not uniquely in rape. Indeed, many types of crime require this kind of investigation to be prosecuted, for example is somebody is seen around copper burglary sights consistently with no adequate explanation, their link to being a copper burglar is flimsy in the individual cases but statistically significant when the bigger picture is considered.Gullscorer wrote:how they bundle together the flimsiest and weakest counts to make a number of innocuous events appear as part of a stronger case
You continue to harp on about the law being awful, how would YOU change the law in ways that 1) do not make a 'special case' of rape as a crime, which you argue so vociferously against and 2) do not lead to the crime going unprosecuted? The only step I can think of taking that makes sense with the above is anonymity for the accused in ALL crimes, which, incidentally, I agree with.
EDIT: I'm also not sure why this is such a priority to you when false allegations in rape cases are statistically the same as in other crimes, unless you have some kind of vendetta...
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1. This is indeed unique to rape and sexual abuse claims. It was a deliberate decision by the Metropolitan Police to give wide publicity to Operation Yewtree with the intention of attracting victims of Jimmy Savile and others, which is understandable, and the weight of impressive witness statements in the Savile case can leave no doubt of his criminality. https://www.nspcc.org.uk/globalassets/d ... savile.pdf
However, the police themselves also invited specific accusations from people they interviewed, however nebulous the connection with the original accuser. I suggest you read Paul Gambaccini’s book, and listen to the interview whilst it is available. Contrary to your assertion, he is demonstrably a man of integrity and good character who would never allow grievance to affect his truthfulness.
http://www.angryharry.com/Flooded-By-Fa ... ations.htm
2. The police also admitted to comedian Jim Davidson that they were told to believe and accept whatever accusers say as the truth. Practically every official and charitable organsation involved with the issue (not to mention feminist prssure groups) says the same thing: ‘believe the victim’, meaning 'believe the accuser, whether true or false'. Given the compensation payments made by the BBC during and after Operation Yewtree, does anybody seriously believe there weren’t a few people chancing their arm in the hope of gaining some benefit? But of course, these too are 'victims' and are to be believed.
http://www.barristermagazine.com/barris ... php?id=544
As for Paul Gambaccini’s reliability, you could just as easily say that all accusers have a grievance of some kind and are therefore not reliable witnesses.
3. Accusations are not eyewitness accounts, still less independent ones. Everyone making an accusation has a right to be taken seriously, but not to be believed without question. Corroborative objective evidence or independent eyewitness is required.
4. Your ‘correlation’ comment refers to what is usually circumstancial evidence, which may indicate something, or may amount to nothing. Are you saying that because evidence in sexual abuse cases is difficult if not impossible to obtain, we should do away with traditional judicial due process? The Salem witch trials are an example of what happens when such due process established over centuries is ignored in favour of expediency and ideology, whether religious or political.
'Justice is anything but politically correct, and mature citizens of the world understand that fair processes are the only bulwarks we have against tyranny.'
COTWA: http://www.cotwa.info/
5. It would be quite untrue to say that false allegations in rape cases are statistically the same as in other crimes. Alison Saunders, current head of the CPS, has erroneously claimed that CPS work had shown false accusations of rape were very rare indeed. The implication is clear: false accusations, and innocent men falsely accused, can be ignored. The Crown Prosecution Service’s Rape Manual, in a section called Societal Myths, states that “studies have indicated that only 2 per cent of all reported rapes are false, which is slightly less than false reporting in all other crimesâ€.
It gives no references to these studies, but the 2 per cent figure originates in the US and has been frequently cited. An attempt to trace it to its source by a US lawyer, Edward Greer, found that it originated in the feminist writer Susan Brownmiller’s 1976 book Against our Will, using data quoted by a judge that in turn came from the Commander of the New York City Rape Analysis Squad in the mid-1970s. This relied on an unknown source, and no report, analysis, or peer-reviewed article to substantiate the claim was ever published, nor any evidence of how the statistics were collected.
Greer, Edward (2000), "The Truth Behind Legal Dominance Feminism's "Two Percent False Rape Claim" Figure", Loyola LA Law Review 33 (3), http://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/llr/vol33/iss3/3/
http://straightstatistics.fullfact.org/ ... -or-common
In fact, the US literature on the subject provides almost any estimate for false accusations of rape you care to choose. One study, published in 1994 by Eugene Kanin, found that in a small unnamed community in the Mid-West where every reported rape was carefully investigated, 41 per cent turned out to be false. The study covered 109 reported rapes over nine years and false claims were only classified as such when the complainant admitted fabrication. More recent studies, British and American, come up with various different figures, from 8% to 45%.
6. A significant number of surveys and statistical reports originating from feminist academic or feminist-influenced sources have been found to be biased, distorted, or downright duplicitous, either in their methodologies or in the way they stress the figures in favour of women whilst ignoring, hiding, or assimilating those for men as if they did not exist. For example, the CPS themselves, in their 2014/15 ‘Violence against women and Girls Crime Report’, collected figures for both men and women, but include the men’s with the women's, as if violence against men did not exist and women were the only victims. A similar thing happened in the supporting data for the Welsh Assembly’s Violence Against Women and Girls Act. That is how unreliable official (and feminist) statistics are.
http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=551
7. And, of course, it's not just the law, it's the application of the law and the training now given to all agencies involved, in accordance with ideological feminist demands, which lead to the requirement that 'victims' must be believed, that all enquiries now begin on the basis that a crime has actually taken place and the accused is guilty, whether the accusation be one of rape or sexual or domestic abuse. And make no mistake, if the ideologues have their way, that is how it will be in the courts: if it's her word against his, then that will be sufficient for a conviction. This approach is already taken in the family courts, where a woman can falsely claim that she fears for her own or the children's safety, which is immediately accepted by the judge, who issues an indefinite restraining order, and as a consequence an innocent man may be refused access to his children for months if not years. And so, in response to your last comment, surely putting an end to witch hunts and injustice should be a priority for us all. ‘Some kind of vendetta’? I don’t know what you mean; please explain.
8. Further reading, for those who are up for it:
http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2015/05/17/ ... legations/
http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/
http://www.cotwa.info/2013/02/the-case- ... -boys.html
http://reference.avoiceformen.com/wiki/ ... _(primary)
http://redpilluk.co.uk/PartnerViolenceA ... dition.pdf
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... appen.html
http://www.cotwa.info/
http://fathersforlife.org/index.html
Stern, Valerie (2010), "The Stern review: A report by Baroness Vivien Stern CBE of an independent review into how rape complaints are handled by public authorities in England and Wales.", London: Government Equalities Office and Home Office, http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. ... _FINAL.pdf
Rumney, Philip N. S. (March 2006), "False Allegations of Rape", Cambridge Law Journal 65 (1), http://journals.cambridge.org/action/di ... aid=430299
Lisak, David (2010), "False Allegations of Sexual Assualt: An Analysis of Ten Years of Reported Cases", Violence against women 16 (12), http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/16/12/1318.short
Kanin, Eugene J. (1994), "False rape allegations", Archives of Sexual Behaviour 23 (1), http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01541619
However, the police themselves also invited specific accusations from people they interviewed, however nebulous the connection with the original accuser. I suggest you read Paul Gambaccini’s book, and listen to the interview whilst it is available. Contrary to your assertion, he is demonstrably a man of integrity and good character who would never allow grievance to affect his truthfulness.
http://www.angryharry.com/Flooded-By-Fa ... ations.htm
2. The police also admitted to comedian Jim Davidson that they were told to believe and accept whatever accusers say as the truth. Practically every official and charitable organsation involved with the issue (not to mention feminist prssure groups) says the same thing: ‘believe the victim’, meaning 'believe the accuser, whether true or false'. Given the compensation payments made by the BBC during and after Operation Yewtree, does anybody seriously believe there weren’t a few people chancing their arm in the hope of gaining some benefit? But of course, these too are 'victims' and are to be believed.
http://www.barristermagazine.com/barris ... php?id=544
As for Paul Gambaccini’s reliability, you could just as easily say that all accusers have a grievance of some kind and are therefore not reliable witnesses.
3. Accusations are not eyewitness accounts, still less independent ones. Everyone making an accusation has a right to be taken seriously, but not to be believed without question. Corroborative objective evidence or independent eyewitness is required.
4. Your ‘correlation’ comment refers to what is usually circumstancial evidence, which may indicate something, or may amount to nothing. Are you saying that because evidence in sexual abuse cases is difficult if not impossible to obtain, we should do away with traditional judicial due process? The Salem witch trials are an example of what happens when such due process established over centuries is ignored in favour of expediency and ideology, whether religious or political.
'Justice is anything but politically correct, and mature citizens of the world understand that fair processes are the only bulwarks we have against tyranny.'
COTWA: http://www.cotwa.info/
5. It would be quite untrue to say that false allegations in rape cases are statistically the same as in other crimes. Alison Saunders, current head of the CPS, has erroneously claimed that CPS work had shown false accusations of rape were very rare indeed. The implication is clear: false accusations, and innocent men falsely accused, can be ignored. The Crown Prosecution Service’s Rape Manual, in a section called Societal Myths, states that “studies have indicated that only 2 per cent of all reported rapes are false, which is slightly less than false reporting in all other crimesâ€.
It gives no references to these studies, but the 2 per cent figure originates in the US and has been frequently cited. An attempt to trace it to its source by a US lawyer, Edward Greer, found that it originated in the feminist writer Susan Brownmiller’s 1976 book Against our Will, using data quoted by a judge that in turn came from the Commander of the New York City Rape Analysis Squad in the mid-1970s. This relied on an unknown source, and no report, analysis, or peer-reviewed article to substantiate the claim was ever published, nor any evidence of how the statistics were collected.
Greer, Edward (2000), "The Truth Behind Legal Dominance Feminism's "Two Percent False Rape Claim" Figure", Loyola LA Law Review 33 (3), http://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/llr/vol33/iss3/3/
http://straightstatistics.fullfact.org/ ... -or-common
In fact, the US literature on the subject provides almost any estimate for false accusations of rape you care to choose. One study, published in 1994 by Eugene Kanin, found that in a small unnamed community in the Mid-West where every reported rape was carefully investigated, 41 per cent turned out to be false. The study covered 109 reported rapes over nine years and false claims were only classified as such when the complainant admitted fabrication. More recent studies, British and American, come up with various different figures, from 8% to 45%.
6. A significant number of surveys and statistical reports originating from feminist academic or feminist-influenced sources have been found to be biased, distorted, or downright duplicitous, either in their methodologies or in the way they stress the figures in favour of women whilst ignoring, hiding, or assimilating those for men as if they did not exist. For example, the CPS themselves, in their 2014/15 ‘Violence against women and Girls Crime Report’, collected figures for both men and women, but include the men’s with the women's, as if violence against men did not exist and women were the only victims. A similar thing happened in the supporting data for the Welsh Assembly’s Violence Against Women and Girls Act. That is how unreliable official (and feminist) statistics are.
http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=551
7. And, of course, it's not just the law, it's the application of the law and the training now given to all agencies involved, in accordance with ideological feminist demands, which lead to the requirement that 'victims' must be believed, that all enquiries now begin on the basis that a crime has actually taken place and the accused is guilty, whether the accusation be one of rape or sexual or domestic abuse. And make no mistake, if the ideologues have their way, that is how it will be in the courts: if it's her word against his, then that will be sufficient for a conviction. This approach is already taken in the family courts, where a woman can falsely claim that she fears for her own or the children's safety, which is immediately accepted by the judge, who issues an indefinite restraining order, and as a consequence an innocent man may be refused access to his children for months if not years. And so, in response to your last comment, surely putting an end to witch hunts and injustice should be a priority for us all. ‘Some kind of vendetta’? I don’t know what you mean; please explain.
8. Further reading, for those who are up for it:
http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2015/05/17/ ... legations/
http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism/about/
http://www.cotwa.info/2013/02/the-case- ... -boys.html
http://reference.avoiceformen.com/wiki/ ... _(primary)
http://redpilluk.co.uk/PartnerViolenceA ... dition.pdf
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... appen.html
http://www.cotwa.info/
http://fathersforlife.org/index.html
Stern, Valerie (2010), "The Stern review: A report by Baroness Vivien Stern CBE of an independent review into how rape complaints are handled by public authorities in England and Wales.", London: Government Equalities Office and Home Office, http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. ... _FINAL.pdf
Rumney, Philip N. S. (March 2006), "False Allegations of Rape", Cambridge Law Journal 65 (1), http://journals.cambridge.org/action/di ... aid=430299
Lisak, David (2010), "False Allegations of Sexual Assualt: An Analysis of Ten Years of Reported Cases", Violence against women 16 (12), http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/16/12/1318.short
Kanin, Eugene J. (1994), "False rape allegations", Archives of Sexual Behaviour 23 (1), http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01541619
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Feminism in the criminal 'justice' system:
"This is among the most important posts we've written and, although it will be a difficult post for some to read, no "trigger warnings" here--everyone needs to read this, and we need to act on it." COTWA:
A national disgrace: http://www.cotwa.info/2015/10/a-nationa ... g-man.html
This is beginning to happen in the UK too:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/4-que ... le/2573915
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/1-in- ... le/2573508
"This is among the most important posts we've written and, although it will be a difficult post for some to read, no "trigger warnings" here--everyone needs to read this, and we need to act on it." COTWA:
A national disgrace: http://www.cotwa.info/2015/10/a-nationa ... g-man.html
This is beginning to happen in the UK too:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/4-que ... le/2573915
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/1-in- ... le/2573508
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Metropolitan Police witch hunt confirmed:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-mob.html
As is BBC bias:
https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/10/06 ... yet-again/
https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/10/09 ... legations/
New academic study:
http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2015/09/30/ ... udy-finds/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-mob.html
As is BBC bias:
https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/10/06 ... yet-again/
https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/10/09 ... legations/
New academic study:
http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2015/09/30/ ... udy-finds/
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Another false accusation, another malicious prosecution: ex-All Black Mils Muliaina tells of court hell after case dropped: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/art ... rdiff.html
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If you read the link you provided, the case was dropped because of a lack of evidence. Given what he's accused of, if there's no video footage then it would be impossible to prove, so this was always the likely outcome.
A dropped case does not equal a false accusation, much less a malicious prosecution, but I suspect it is not worth debating this with you.
A dropped case does not equal a false accusation, much less a malicious prosecution, but I suspect it is not worth debating this with you.
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A young woman claimed she 'felt' her backside had been touched in a busy nightclub, and she picked out Muliaina. As you say, always the likely outcome that the case would be dropped. 'Lack of evidence' is the standard excuse in such cases, where the police are required to believe the accuser (sorry, the 'victim') from the outset and rush in, over the top (this 'crime' was nothing approaching a rape or even sexual assault) with 'zero tolerance'.
People don't realise that these days an accuser's claim is all that is needed, whether or not it is established that a crime has been committed or that the right suspect has been charged. I have dealt with the prevalence of false accusations in an earlier post, along with the consequences for innocent men falsely accused. In the present feminist PC climate, to regard such a case as a false accusation with a near-automatic prosecution (with maliciousness embedded in the system), is a very reasonable assumption to make.
If charges are dropped, it's almost a certainty in such cases that the authorities have reasons more clear-cut than a mere lack of evidence, otherwise the case would have proceeded simply on the basis of an accusation. It is CPS policy to normally allow such cases to be prosecuted and decided by the courts 'in the public interest', just as it is CPS policy to not normally prosecute false accusers.
A deliberately false accusation of rape or sexual abuse is as heinous a crime as rape or sexual abuse itself, and should be dealt with accordingly. Yet the vast majority of false accusations are dealt with by police without any charge being made. And less than a third of the false accusation cases referred by police to the CPS for prosecution are actually taken further: http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/rese ... h_2013.pdf
The usual excuse given is that most of the false accusers are young and vulnerable women. Strangely, the same consideration is rarely accorded to vulnerable young men (who may themselves have been previously abused or may suffer from autism, trauma/PTSD, or mental health issues) who are charged (whether falsely or otherwise) with sexual offences.
People don't realise that these days an accuser's claim is all that is needed, whether or not it is established that a crime has been committed or that the right suspect has been charged. I have dealt with the prevalence of false accusations in an earlier post, along with the consequences for innocent men falsely accused. In the present feminist PC climate, to regard such a case as a false accusation with a near-automatic prosecution (with maliciousness embedded in the system), is a very reasonable assumption to make.
If charges are dropped, it's almost a certainty in such cases that the authorities have reasons more clear-cut than a mere lack of evidence, otherwise the case would have proceeded simply on the basis of an accusation. It is CPS policy to normally allow such cases to be prosecuted and decided by the courts 'in the public interest', just as it is CPS policy to not normally prosecute false accusers.
A deliberately false accusation of rape or sexual abuse is as heinous a crime as rape or sexual abuse itself, and should be dealt with accordingly. Yet the vast majority of false accusations are dealt with by police without any charge being made. And less than a third of the false accusation cases referred by police to the CPS for prosecution are actually taken further: http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/rese ... h_2013.pdf
The usual excuse given is that most of the false accusers are young and vulnerable women. Strangely, the same consideration is rarely accorded to vulnerable young men (who may themselves have been previously abused or may suffer from autism, trauma/PTSD, or mental health issues) who are charged (whether falsely or otherwise) with sexual offences.
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For example: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... onths.html
and: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... elves.html
And New Year's Eve in Cologne: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights ... e-germany/
The CPS: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... cases.html
The CPS again: https://j4mb.wordpress.com/2016/02/07/t ... -evidence/
And: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... sex-pests/
and: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... elves.html
And New Year's Eve in Cologne: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights ... e-germany/
The CPS: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... cases.html
The CPS again: https://j4mb.wordpress.com/2016/02/07/t ... -evidence/
And: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... sex-pests/
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Do you believe me now..?? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... stice.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... -the-start
(Slightly off topic): Judicial double standards: http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=667
Guilty until proven innocent: http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/debate/ar ... -next.html
CPS perverting the course of justice: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... uilty.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canad ... -the-start
(Slightly off topic): Judicial double standards: http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=667
Guilty until proven innocent: http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/debate/ar ... -next.html
CPS perverting the course of justice: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... uilty.html
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Two sides of the same coin:
Trump: http://www.cotwa.info/2016/02/donald-tr ... e-for.html
Clinton: http://www.cotwa.info/2016/01/mrs-clint ... about.html
It's standard procedure for a divorcing woman to toss in a rape, domestic violence, or child abuse accusation. Why wouldn't you? There's no downside and it only helps you screw the man harder. Think of all the people who were hung as witches at Salem because some girls accused them of being witches. Think of all the black men who were hung because white women accused the black men of leering at the white women. Think of the power a woman must feel when she knows she can exact revenge on a man she does not like by simply accusing him of rape.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... ation.html
http://accused.me.uk/
http://i.imgbox.com/xAwCvGo4.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z45YO8Dfov
Trump: http://www.cotwa.info/2016/02/donald-tr ... e-for.html
Clinton: http://www.cotwa.info/2016/01/mrs-clint ... about.html
It's standard procedure for a divorcing woman to toss in a rape, domestic violence, or child abuse accusation. Why wouldn't you? There's no downside and it only helps you screw the man harder. Think of all the people who were hung as witches at Salem because some girls accused them of being witches. Think of all the black men who were hung because white women accused the black men of leering at the white women. Think of the power a woman must feel when she knows she can exact revenge on a man she does not like by simply accusing him of rape.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking ... ation.html
http://accused.me.uk/
http://i.imgbox.com/xAwCvGo4.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z45YO8Dfov
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The show trials of innocent men by the Marxist-Feminists running the Crown Prosecution Service:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... in-the-uk/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3zR1bAzgM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-36481127
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4BkA4SmlU
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4FSG0aYl2
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... ree-years/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4FSMjJuQO
http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=183
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... r_facebook
http://www.lfpress.com/2016/06/05/26-ye ... chool-girl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... finds.html
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... in-the-uk/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3zR1bAzgM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-36481127
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4BkA4SmlU
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4FSG0aYl2
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... ree-years/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4FSMjJuQO
http://mra-uk.co.uk/?p=183
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... r_facebook
http://www.lfpress.com/2016/06/05/26-ye ... chool-girl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... finds.html
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That 'Sexual Risk Order' has gotta be one of the craziest things I've heard, it's just absurd. Innocent until proven guilty seems to be no longer a thing, and I know so many people who are sickeningly happy about this. Like any right-thinking person, I consider rape to be absolutely abhorrent, but - short of wearing body cameras 24/7 and not letting people ever get drunk - I really don't see what we can do to stop people getting away with it.
The safe-sex society, or whatever they were called, at my uni were saying how you are classified as too drunk to consent past something nuts like two beers. Like...WHAT? If my girlfriend and I get drunk and have sex, I'm raping her? And yes, it's me raping HER, don't forget, because unless they penetrate you with something, a women LEGALLY cannot rape a man.
The safe-sex society, or whatever they were called, at my uni were saying how you are classified as too drunk to consent past something nuts like two beers. Like...WHAT? If my girlfriend and I get drunk and have sex, I'm raping her? And yes, it's me raping HER, don't forget, because unless they penetrate you with something, a women LEGALLY cannot rape a man.
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Believe the 'victim' (false accuser)! It's happening here too: http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/20/i-was ... f-justice/
False allegations withdrawn too late to stop teenager killing himself. Then his mother kills herself, unable to face life without him: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4FocQGXVn
https://hequal.wordpress.com/2016/08/01 ... llegation/
More: http://www.thelatestnews.com/lisa-longs ... bout-rape/
And yet more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... e-app.html
https://j4mb.wordpress.com/2016/07/31/r ... ens-false/
https://j4mb.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/w ... n-tonight/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1520115/r ... lift-home/
http://m.bicesteradvertiser.net/news/14 ... nces_case/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -date.html
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/eu ... 63969.html
Innocent men suffering: http://thecustodyminefield.com/non-mole ... stigation/
Innocent man suffering: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-37118850
False allegations withdrawn too late to stop teenager killing himself. Then his mother kills herself, unable to face life without him: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4FocQGXVn
https://hequal.wordpress.com/2016/08/01 ... llegation/
More: http://www.thelatestnews.com/lisa-longs ... bout-rape/
And yet more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... e-app.html
https://j4mb.wordpress.com/2016/07/31/r ... ens-false/
https://j4mb.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/w ... n-tonight/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1520115/r ... lift-home/
http://m.bicesteradvertiser.net/news/14 ... nces_case/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -date.html
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/eu ... 63969.html
Innocent men suffering: http://thecustodyminefield.com/non-mole ... stigation/
Innocent man suffering: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-37118850
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