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Richinns · Post by **Richinns** » 24 May 2016, 11:10

Apart from the welcome Luke Young news it does not seem that this is going particularly well.......

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 24 May 2016, 13:27

I trust Nicholson completely to spend what he has wisely, it's just a shame the new owners couldn't provide him with a bigger budget.

Richinns · Post by **Richinns** » 24 May 2016, 14:25

Southampton Gull wrote:I trust Nicholson completely to spend what he has wisely, it's just a shame the new owners couldn't provide him with a bigger budget.

Not questioning Nicho - more the fact keeping on those who played a vital part in the great escape (and the ones we really want to stay) is looking less and less likely as the days go by. It would seem the budget simply cannot meet the costs needed to provide this.

Post by **Gulliball** » 24 May 2016, 14:37

We're not going to compete with clubs financially, so if a player gets a better offer they're likely to be off. This is normal for us, but is even worse than usual because we have no room to work with at all.

Let's hope that most of the remaining players are just seeing what else is out there, as any sensible player should, before commiting to us. The ones that do have other offers will likely go, but hopefully this is limited to just a few.

I would expect Berry, Richards, Harrad to sign up, as long as the money isn't too appalling.
Butler, MacDonald and Blissett will get offers elsewhere I think. Ajala somewhere in between. I think those are the final 7 we're waiting on?

I am sure Nicho will have his eye on a few arrivals too.

northlondongull · Post by **northlondongull** » 24 May 2016, 16:05

From this article in the Herald: http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/T ... story.html

It looks as if it could be a busy week or so:

(1) The current players have until June 2 to agree or not;
(2) GI has until the end of the month on its exclusivity agreement;
(3) Nicho is closing in on other targets; and
(4) Season tickets sales are going well (over 600 sold) so the club may extend the offer. I would think that this is wise as I assume that there are a number of people waiting on (2) before they commit to buying one.

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » 24 May 2016, 16:28

This season hasn't even technically finished yet, and players will have been away on holiday as the article reports. A couple of sides in the division (Wrexham and Gateshead) seem to have done a lot of business already but that is very early. There is no cause for concern yet

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 24 May 2016, 16:31

Richinns wrote: Not questioning Nicho - more the fact keeping on those who played a vital part in the great escape (and the ones we really want to stay) is looking less and less likely as the days go by. It would seem the budget simply cannot meet the costs needed to provide this.

I wasn't aiming anything at you Rich. I think with a reasonable budget Nicholson could build a decent team going by his signings so far along with the return of Luke Young.

Magpiegull · Post by **Magpiegull** » 24 May 2016, 16:42

Regarding Northlondongull's post above, GI do not have to complete by 'the end of the month' as, according to the HE, Mr Phillips says that the period of exclusivity still has a 'couple of months' to run!

PhilGull · Post by **PhilGull** » 24 May 2016, 16:51

That article also mentions a replacement for Steve Breed after he was made redundant. Well people aren't made redundant, positions are - as such we are not going to see a replacement for Steve Breed. Not for six months at least (the minimum (I think) allowed by law).
The HE really has turned in to a pointless rag.

Post by **Dave** » 24 May 2016, 17:04

We've got to ask ourselves a question here. Was Steve Breed actually, officially made redundant ? I have not seen anything that officially confirms that he was.

If it is the case and he was made redundant, as long as the job title and description are different can't see a problem. I'm going through this process right now, the company I work for has axed the shift I'm on, and made our job roles redundant, they have however created new jobs for us all, lower paid and different hours of working times, which we now have to apply for if we wish to.

tomogull · Post by **tomogull** » 24 May 2016, 17:27

Gulliball wrote:We're not going to compete with clubs financially, so if a player gets a better offer they're likely to be off. This is normal for us, but is even worse than usual because we have no room to work with at all.

Let's hope that most of the remaining players are just seeing what else is out there, as any sensible player should, before commiting to us. The ones that do have other offers will likely go, but hopefully this is limited to just a few.

I would expect Berry, Richards, Harrad to sign up, as long as the money isn't too appalling.
Butler, MacDonald and Blissett will get offers elsewhere I think. Ajala somewhere in between. I think those are the final 7 we're waiting on?

I am sure Nicho will have his eye on a few arrivals too.

We also have to take into account the sticky fingers of players' agents who will be pushing for the most lucrative contracts for their clients. After all, that's how they earn a living.

Post by **Eirik** » 24 May 2016, 17:37

This is what they said in the article about KN signing the new contract

CEO Stephen Breed has left the club after the position of chief executive was made redundant due to restructuring.
Read more at http://www.torquayunited.com/news/artic ... Z2LJJ2q.99

northlondongull · Post by **northlondongull** » 24 May 2016, 18:01

Magpiegull wrote:Regarding Northlondongull's post above, GI do not have to complete by 'the end of the month' as, according to the HE, Mr Phillips says that the period of exclusivity still has a 'couple of months' to run!

I think that may be an error in the article.

â€œHe would not go into detail, but it is also clear that GI's 'exclusivity agreement' still has a couple of months to run â€“ they do not have to complete their takeover by the end of Mayâ€

I assume that a couple of â€œmonths to runâ€ is meant to read â€œweeks to runâ€ otherwise the part about the end of May would not make sense. I would also be very surprised and shocked if the current owners granted an exclusivity period until the end of July; that would take us right up to the start of next season with the club stuck in uncertainty.

Plainmoor78 · Post by **Plainmoor78** » 26 May 2016, 00:16

northlondongull wrote: I think that may be an error in the article.

â€œHe would not go into detail, but it is also clear that GI's 'exclusivity agreement' still has a couple of months to run â€“ they do not have to complete their takeover by the end of Mayâ€

I assume that a couple of â€œmonths to runâ€ is meant to read â€œweeks to runâ€ otherwise the part about the end of May would not make sense. I would also be very surprised and shocked if the current owners granted an exclusivity period until the end of July; that would take us right up to the start of next season with the club stuck in uncertainty.

Why have we assumed the exclusivity deal runs out on 30th may?. Because the article certainly suggests it goes on until July. What I mean was 30th may originally stated by the board and have they now extended it? At one point Philips stated he hoped the deal would be done before the end of the season. I wonder if the yellowfest balls up has given GI cold feet.

PhilGull · Post by **PhilGull** » 26 May 2016, 09:18

Plainmoor78 wrote: Why have we assumed the exclusivity deal runs out on 30th may?. Because the article certainly suggests it goes on until July. What I mean was 30th may originally stated by the board and have they now extended it? At one point Philips stated he hoped the deal would be done before the end of the season. I wonder if the yellowfest balls up has given GI cold feet.

I would be surprised if it hadn't. If they don't think there is an appetite for this type of event in Torbay then that is one of their revenue streams gone.

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