Torquayunited v FC Halifax 14/4/18

[Shangull]

Lots of people pointing out that Halifax have played 3 games in a week. The team may have but with rotation of squad only a handful of players played all 3 games. we definitely didn't play against 11 players who had all played 3 games in a week. At a point in the season where performance can go out the window all that is important is 3 points and we got them. We kept a clean sheet, created a few chances and took one of them. Jamie Reid scored and fair play to him for all the abuse he gets and the unrealistic expectations around his performances. A win and if we keep winning then you never know.

[merse btpir]

Other teams will be the beneficiaries of the mad house of National League fixture making in the coming period and it will not benefit Torquay United then; so let's not go bellyaching about it when it happens.......what goes round, comes round

[brucie]

1-0, 5-0 - what does it matter? - we had to win and we won. Basically the result is all.

Just look at the Dover and Fylde games. On another day and without a lunatic referee we could have taken 3 points at Dover and without suspension we might well have picked up points against Fylde as well. However we didn't so that's all that matters.

Looking at the other fixtures now we would need a miracle to stay up though. Its looks for all the world that we are going to fall short (but not by that much).

Doesn't that make it all the more galling though? - We could easily have achieved half a dozen more points. Much has been made of Owers poor signings but this team is competitive enough to have stayed up had he managed to get some of the players in a bit earlier.

[TUST_Member_Rob]

Must say that Balatoni played well yesterday

McGinty distribution is useless the majority's of the time and he switched to just giving it to Balatoni who at least gave a pass to feet

I wouldn't be against him staying next year although his pace maybe questionable in 2 man CB combination

Young also played well for me

Davis was disappointing, it's obvious his right foot might as well not exist but he had numerous crossing chances yesterday on his left but the vast majority are poorly executed

[arcadia]

I thought McGinty was our best defender yesterday, yes his distribution is questionable but his no nonsense clearing the ball was an asset to us when the wide players give the ball away in deep positions. Thought everybody did better yesterday.

[MellowYellow]

Lots of people pointing out that Halifax have played 3 games in a week. The team may have but with rotation of squad only a handful of players played all 3 games. we definitely didn't play against 11 players who had all played 3 games in a week.

Thanks for the insight Shangull, but not sure the Halifax supporters see it that way:

• "I do have to question why we had 4/5 players sat in the stands and out of the squad completley when they could have been rotated in today, considering how tired we were".
  • "We would have benefitted from playing more fringe players"
  • "Tiredness I guess could also be the cause of the bookings"
  • "Game too far today some tired legs out there"
  • "just risking injury for MFT playing when he’s so clearly shattered. "
  • "the decision to play Tomlinson and MFT in 4 consecutive full games in a week has had an effect".
  • "we were a bit lacklustre, which I think we can probably put down to fatigue"
  • "Credit to the National League too in forcing us to play 4 times in a week, ending in a 600+ mile trip today. It only took the team 9 hours to get down yesterday"

[MellowYellow]

Thanks for the insight Shangull, but not sure the Halifax supporters see it that way:

• "I do have to question why we had 4/5 players sat in the stands and out of the squad completley when they could have been rotated in today, considering how tired we were".
  • "We would have benefitted from playing more fringe players"
  • "Tiredness I guess could also be the cause of the bookings"
  • "Game too far today some tired legs out there"
  • "just risking injury for MFT playing when he’s so clearly shattered. "
  • "the decision to play Tomlinson and MFT in 4 consecutive full games in a week has had an effect".
  • "we were a bit lacklustre, which I think we can probably put down to fatigue"
  • "Credit to the National League too in forcing us to play 4 times in a week, ending in a 600+ mile trip today. It only took the team 9 hours to get down yesterday"

I do wonder what the comments would be if our survival was dependant on 4 games in one week.

[arcadia]

I think Halifax are lucky to have enough quality players to rotate the squad we clearly have not got that luxury.

[Dave]

Halifax were clearly out of sorts yesterday, this a team that have beaten the likes of Dagenham, Sutton, Boreham Wood of late so no mugs, yet looked by some way, the worst team in my opinion to visit Plainmoor all season.

This game was for the most part a borefest, as said, Halifax offered absolutely nothing at all in the game, apart from a very late rally, TUFC were in complete control of the game, had the majority of the possession, but as normal, little or no quality from us in the game, but as said above, it was the result that was important.

Think the result changes nothing in terms of whether we can escape the drop. For whatever reason Halifax didn't turn up, and offered us a guilt edged chance not just to win the game, but win by a confidence boosting comfortable margin, however for 99.99 % of the game, we didn't look like scoring.

If we're to win the last 3 games, our team have to do better, they simply do not inspire me with any confidence what so ever.

[lucy6lucy]

Halifax were clearly out of sorts yesterday, this a team that have beaten the likes of Dagenham, Sutton, Boreham Wood of late so no mugs, yet looked by some way, the worst team in my opinion to visit Plainmoor all season.

This game was for the most part a borefest, as said, Halifax offered absolutely nothing at all in the game, apart from a very late rally, TUFC were in complete control of the game, had the majority of the possession, but as normal, little or no quality from us in the game, but as said above, it was the result that was important.

Think the result changes nothing in terms of whether we can escape the drop. For whatever reason Halifax didn't turn up, and offered us a guilt edged chance not just to win the game, but win by a confidence boosting comfortable margin, however for 99.99 % of the game, we didn't look like scoring.

If we're to win the last 3 games, our team have to do better, they simply do not inspire me with any confidence what so ever.

We beat Sutton and Dagenham also, surely we're not that rubbish to go down

[Dave]

True Luce, Halifax had only lost 1 of their last 10 games going into Saturday, their performance on Saturday did not show any evidence of their recent improved form, just found it disappointing, whilst the result was the only thing that mattered, our own performance didn't give any confidence, or reason to believe we can still escape relegation, Halifax were ripe for a real beating Saturday.

[Minneapolisgull]

Are we the only Fan club/fanzine where more people seem disappointed with a win than if we actually lost the game.
For those that missed or do not understand TORQUAY 1-0 Halifax. We won the game gained 3 points gave ourselves hope....
What I would have given for some games this season where it could have been the worst game in the world but we actually would have won or even drew.
I will take the Hartlepool game being worse game of football ever seen in the history of football if it allows to take 3 points!

[MellowYellow]

Are we the only Fan club/fanzine where more people seem disappointed with a win than if we actually lost the game.
For those that missed or do not understand TORQUAY 1-0 Halifax. We won the game gained 3 points gave ourselves hope....
What I would have given for some games this season where it could have been the worst game in the world but we actually would have won or even drew.
I will take the Hartlepool game being worse game of football ever seen in the history of football if it allows to take 3 points!

Minneapolisgull, I take it you were not at yesterdays game. No one is disappointed with the win but there are a few of us who witnessed the game and are disappointed with the performance. The win and the performance are not one of the same thing. If you were there to witness our team trying to break down 11 dead men walking you may have a better understanding of where some supporters are coming from on this display.

[Minneapolisgull]

Mellow Yellow I understand the frustration with yesterday performance and I am sure there have been many disappointing performances throughout the season. I was lucky enough or unlucky enough a the case maybe to see the home game against Dagenham and did not think things could get any worse after that night. After that performance I would have thought we would have been relegated several weeks ago. But No with 3 games left we still have a chance. My point is at this stage of the season it really is just about 3 points, Would love for Torquay to be playing free flowing attractive football, its been along time since we saw that type of play from the Gulls. As said on a previous post I will take 3 of the worst football games ever known to man if it meant 3 wins and staying up. It has been such a poor season with so little to cheer about! We have to celebrate a win no matter how it comes!

[merse btpir]

No one is disappointed with the win but there are a few of us who witnessed the game and are disappointed with the performance. The win and the performance are not one of the same thing.

Performance counts for nothing at this stage of the season and particularly in the situation as it is.......only results do.

A simple choice: play well and fail to win ~ go down
Play poorly but win ~ live to fight another day.

That's how the team is being sent out now; the emphasis has to be that if the game/performance is a struggle; dig in and keep going for that goal that can win it.