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Very simply, the only way forward is to go part time. This level of football does not support a full time operation. All the suggestions are brilliant, but a drop in the ocean compared to the wage bill of full time players
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wbw wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 15:36 Very simply, the only way forward is to go part time. This level of football does not support a full time operation. All the suggestions are brilliant, but a drop in the ocean compared to the wage bill of full time players
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UnitedinDevon wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 15:48 complete rubbish
As is his way.....
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wbw wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 15:36 Very simply, the only way forward is to go part time. This level of football does not support a full time operation. All the suggestions are brilliant, but a drop in the ocean compared to the wage bill of full time players
Or find someone else to throw a million quid a year away!!
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wbw wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 19:17 Or find someone else to throw a million quid a year away!!
Ah so the club was ran impeccably under Osborne’s tenure?

So impeccably that we’re in nl south? And in a mess.
Perhaps if his intentions were positive and he ran the club in a proactive manner, then things may not have turned out like the way they have.
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No we don't have to go part-time, nor do we need someone to throw a £million quid a year away either. Don't know why I'm even responding to a troll, and WBW is a troll who should be ignored.

For a start if the club hadn't thrown long term over bloated contracts at an over bloated first team management and coaching structure, doubt the club would have been losing such eye watering sums.

Said on this forum more times than I can remember, trim the fat, this club can and hopefully will be run better and more efficiently, for a start both the assistant and goalkeeper coaching could be a combined with playing role, and we don't need the managers brother in a job for the boys role getting paid to to do nothing , scouting/recruitment could be farmed out cheaper than having a permanent wage on the books.

Would also be cheaper in the long term to have a better more worth system of checking potential new signings aren't arriving at TQ1 as the walking wounded before they've even kicked a ball for us, when your short of money it's vital you get maximum production out of all players, injury's and suspensions of course can't be helped, but can be kept to a minimum.

Of course any new owner will have to bring stability followed by a period of sustainability, how does that happen, well I've been banging on here for 10 years or more about this. It's not about throwing big money and 3 year contracts at big names we clearly can't afford, it absolutely is about scouting, we've seen already Austen Booth grow in stature and confidence, the entire South West counties is full of semi-pro Austen Booth types who'd jump at the chance at one last shot at professional football, find them, develop them, and we might seen the odd incoming transfer fee.
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Been called lots of things, but never a troll before lol. Just giving opinion, agree with it or not, it's up to you....but at least try and be polite.
There is a reason why almost all clubs at our level are part time, thinking of going part time or have financial backers.
The model you outline above is rose tinted spectacle stuff....it it were that straightforward, all clubs would be doing it.
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The departures of Johnson, Donnelan, D'silva and Hanson must surely bringing us towards sustainability.
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As mentioned before, the guy in the tea stand needs to up his game and sell a bit quicker. How many of those still stuck in his queue just after half time and missed the goals will be queuing up at the next game for tea or a pasty?
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wbw wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 21:12
There is a reason why almost all clubs at our level are part time, thinking of going part time or have financial backers.
The model you outline above is rose tinted spectacle stuff....it it were that straightforward, all clubs would be doing it.
Most clubs at level do not already have a full time professional football club infrustucture in place as we do.

My model isn't rose tinted, is basic common sense, a lot of clubs use or have used player / coaches, as we have in the past at TUFC.

I seem to remember Grant Fisher when first team keeper at Buckland running sessions for all the clubs then goalkeepers, if they can, we can.

Paul Buckle was known for using scouting reports, pretty sure they were prepared by John Milton, not sure whether he was paid or sub contracted however

All what I said can be done and would cut costs.
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Dave wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 20:58 No we don't have to go part-time, nor do we need someone to throw a £million quid a year away either. Don't know why I'm even responding to a troll, and WBW is a troll who should be ignored.

For a start if the club hadn't thrown long term over bloated contracts at an over bloated first team management and coaching structure, doubt the club would have been losing such eye watering sums.

Said on this forum more times than I can remember, trim the fat, this club can and hopefully will be run better and more efficiently, for a start both the assistant and goalkeeper coaching could be a combined with playing role, and we don't need the managers brother in a job for the boys role getting paid to to do nothing , scouting/recruitment could be farmed out cheaper than having a permanent wage on the books.

Would also be cheaper in the long term to have a better more worth system of checking potential new signings aren't arriving at TQ1 as the walking wounded before they've even kicked a ball for us, when your short of money it's vital you get maximum production out of all players, injury's and suspensions of course can't be helped, but can be kept to a minimum.

Of course any new owner will have to bring stability followed by a period of sustainability, how does that happen, well I've been banging on here for 10 years or more about this. It's not about throwing big money and 3 year contracts at big names we clearly can't afford, it absolutely is about scouting, we've seen already Austen Booth grow in stature and confidence, the entire South West counties is full of semi-pro Austen Booth types who'd jump at the chance at one last shot at professional football, find them, develop them, and we might seen the odd incoming transfer fee.
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Dave wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 20:58 No we don't have to go part-time, nor do we need someone to throw a £million quid a year away either. Don't know why I'm even responding to a troll, and WBW is a troll who should be ignored.

For a start if the club hadn't thrown long term over bloated contracts at an over bloated first team management and coaching structure, doubt the club would have been losing such eye watering sums.

Said on this forum more times than I can remember, trim the fat, this club can and hopefully will be run better and more efficiently, for a start both the assistant and goalkeeper coaching could be a combined with playing role, and we don't need the managers brother in a job for the boys role getting paid to to do nothing , scouting/recruitment could be farmed out cheaper than having a permanent wage on the books.

Would also be cheaper in the long term to have a better more worth system of checking potential new signings aren't arriving at TQ1 as the walking wounded before they've even kicked a ball for us, when your short of money it's vital you get maximum production out of all players, injury's and suspensions of course can't be helped, but can be kept to a minimum.

Of course any new owner will have to bring stability followed by a period of sustainability, how does that happen, well I've been banging on here for 10 years or more about this. It's not about throwing big money and 3 year contracts at big names we clearly can't afford, it absolutely is about scouting, we've seen already Austen Booth grow in stature and confidence, the entire South West counties is full of semi-pro Austen Booth types who'd jump at the chance at one last shot at professional football, find them, develop them, and we might seen the odd incoming transfer fee.
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Well put mate - another good Dave post.... :clap:
Getting sick of them now tbh.... :rofl:
Also, I'm sure there are some professional people out there that would now love to get involved with TUFC in some capacity moving forward to help out - whether they are football, financial, medical etc. now that they would be able too and be welcomed.....
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wbw wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 21:12 Been called lots of things, but never a troll before lol. Just giving opinion, agree with it or not, it's up to you....but at least try and be polite.
Irony at its best. If you can't take it don't dish it out.

You're obviously OK with getting behind a man who has a history of despicable 'successes' to the detriment of various sporting institutions just like he would have happily seen become us. We're not shot of him yet but I'll personally be happy to be shot of him. Long live TUFC.
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SuperNickyWroe wrote: 11 Mar 2024, 10:15 :goodpost:
Well put mate - another good Dave post.... :clap:
Getting sick of them now tbh.... :rofl:
Also, I'm sure there are some professional people out there that would now love to get involved with TUFC in some capacity moving forward to help out - whether they are football, financial, medical etc. now that they would be able too and be welcomed.....
Lots of professional people already do 😏
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Dave wrote: 10 Mar 2024, 20:58 No we don't have to go part-time, nor do we need someone to throw a £million quid a year away either. Don't know why I'm even responding to a troll, and WBW is a troll who should be ignored.

For a start if the club hadn't thrown long term over bloated contracts at an over bloated first team management and coaching structure, doubt the club would have been losing such eye watering sums.

Said on this forum more times than I can remember, trim the fat, this club can and hopefully will be run better and more efficiently, for a start both the assistant and goalkeeper coaching could be a combined with playing role, and we don't need the managers brother in a job for the boys role getting paid to to do nothing , scouting/recruitment could be farmed out cheaper than having a permanent wage on the books.

Would also be cheaper in the long term to have a better more worth system of checking potential new signings aren't arriving at TQ1 as the walking wounded before they've even kicked a ball for us, when your short of money it's vital you get maximum production out of all players, injury's and suspensions of course can't be helped, but can be kept to a minimum.

Of course any new owner will have to bring stability followed by a period of sustainability, how does that happen, well I've been banging on here for 10 years or more about this. It's not about throwing big money and 3 year contracts at big names we clearly can't afford, it absolutely is about scouting, we've seen already Austen Booth grow in stature and confidence, the entire South West counties is full of semi-pro Austen Booth types who'd jump at the chance at one last shot at professional football, find them, develop them, and we might seen the odd incoming transfer fee.
:goodpost: Added to that the office staff needs pruning to match our level......ie We have volunteers, NOT paid people. Match day hosts should not be full-time, filling in with nondescript activities to justify their wages.

How we have a media manager and people below him defies belief, we are NOT Arsenal or Man City, we should have ONE doing specific work only. The guy doing the halftime draw is awful - get rid of him! One of the injured players could do that if he was not playing. The girl who is seen taking photos does very little ,- another wage saved. Even the Commercial Manager needs to update her game. All too often we do not have a sponsor, WHY...it is her job to find one for EVERY match. Find someone that is proactive and more appealing. Video analysts, kit man etc should be volunteers. I sincerely hope we cut our cloth accordingly, although I would remain full time.

ANY volunteers please step forward to help the Club. I would help in any way I could.

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