Torbay Council planning to restrict parking around Plainmoor
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Torbay Council planning to restrict parking around Plainmoor
This link tells the story. A few Anti-Torquay United residents around Cary Park have clearly got together with their local councillors to try to restrict parking around Plainmoor. We all know that this is about embittered residents who can't abide to have "football fans" parking near their houses (scruffy people, football fans, etc etc).
http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/Conce ... story.html
I would urge all fans who live in the Bay (particularly in St Marychurch/Babbacombe, where you can pressurise Councillors Peter Addis and Alan Faulkner), or who have friends or family in the Bay, to PUT PRESSURE ON THE COUNCIL by writing to their local Councillor or to members of the Transport Planning Group to express their opposition. The members of the Transport Planning Group (with email details) are on the attached link:
http://www.torbay.gov.uk/DemocraticServ ... M=0&ID=470
The concern is that Messrs Addis and Faulkner are both Councillors for St Marychurch and are both members of the Transport Planning Group. This Group is supposed to debate matters in the interests of ALL the residents of Torbay, not just a few folk with big houses in Cary Park.
Please email, put pressure on and make it very clear what you think. This proposal would have a very bad effect on our club and its fans, as well as any Torbay resident who uses the sports facilities in Cary Park but is not rich enough to live there.
http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/Conce ... story.html
I would urge all fans who live in the Bay (particularly in St Marychurch/Babbacombe, where you can pressurise Councillors Peter Addis and Alan Faulkner), or who have friends or family in the Bay, to PUT PRESSURE ON THE COUNCIL by writing to their local Councillor or to members of the Transport Planning Group to express their opposition. The members of the Transport Planning Group (with email details) are on the attached link:
http://www.torbay.gov.uk/DemocraticServ ... M=0&ID=470
The concern is that Messrs Addis and Faulkner are both Councillors for St Marychurch and are both members of the Transport Planning Group. This Group is supposed to debate matters in the interests of ALL the residents of Torbay, not just a few folk with big houses in Cary Park.
Please email, put pressure on and make it very clear what you think. This proposal would have a very bad effect on our club and its fans, as well as any Torbay resident who uses the sports facilities in Cary Park but is not rich enough to live there.
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Sorry, Cary Park? I don't know the sub-divisions of Torquay at all (nor any road names, famous landmarks, pubs etc), someone explain, concisely and clearly, where it is we can no longer park.
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J5 said, "ferrarilover is 100% correct"
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Cary Park is behind Plainmoor in direction of Babbacombe/St Marychurch, big park, tennis courts etc. Lots of fans park around their on match days, and I believe that gates would fall if people cannot find somewhere to park. This is just about local residents who don't like football fans parking near their houses for, at most, 100 hours a year. Selfish barstewards.
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Ok, Google Maps to the rescue.
Does this raise, perhaps, a valid point which I have been considering for a short while now. Could we take over both the little field outside the ground, as well as the assorted car parking areas around the ground, redevelop them (so that they aren't so grossly badly designed and wasteful of space) and have space at the ground for a couple of hundred cars? I know it'll cost an arm and a leg, but we are going to have to do something about the parking situation if we are to hang out in L1 (if we ever get there) for any length of time.
To the issue at hand in the immediate foreground, the Council are doing their usual and using their powers to make the lives of ordinary citizens as unnecessarily hard and uncomfortable and expensive as possible. Just like plastering the whole Bay in parking meters and setting the prices needlessly high in an effort not to attract people, but to keep them away, so that they can whinge on about how tourism is down and how they need extra Central Government funding (getting a handout by appearing weak is MUCH less effort than becoming strong on your own merits).
Spent a month in one of the most tightly controlled countries on Earth. Oddly, I could put up with having to break the law to access real BBC news or Twitter, because at least they were open about it. Turns out, what really grips my shit is the illusion of freedom that we have over here, where we get screwed over, time and again, but we arer told we deserve to be, because it is "Democracy" and therefore fair. Tell me, what is fair about having a choice of X candidates, all of whom will screw you over in the same way and to the same extent, but under the guise of either left wing socialism, or right wing capitalism?
Sorry, all that eating with chopsticks has driven me quite hysterical.
Matt.
Does this raise, perhaps, a valid point which I have been considering for a short while now. Could we take over both the little field outside the ground, as well as the assorted car parking areas around the ground, redevelop them (so that they aren't so grossly badly designed and wasteful of space) and have space at the ground for a couple of hundred cars? I know it'll cost an arm and a leg, but we are going to have to do something about the parking situation if we are to hang out in L1 (if we ever get there) for any length of time.
To the issue at hand in the immediate foreground, the Council are doing their usual and using their powers to make the lives of ordinary citizens as unnecessarily hard and uncomfortable and expensive as possible. Just like plastering the whole Bay in parking meters and setting the prices needlessly high in an effort not to attract people, but to keep them away, so that they can whinge on about how tourism is down and how they need extra Central Government funding (getting a handout by appearing weak is MUCH less effort than becoming strong on your own merits).
Spent a month in one of the most tightly controlled countries on Earth. Oddly, I could put up with having to break the law to access real BBC news or Twitter, because at least they were open about it. Turns out, what really grips my shit is the illusion of freedom that we have over here, where we get screwed over, time and again, but we arer told we deserve to be, because it is "Democracy" and therefore fair. Tell me, what is fair about having a choice of X candidates, all of whom will screw you over in the same way and to the same extent, but under the guise of either left wing socialism, or right wing capitalism?
Sorry, all that eating with chopsticks has driven me quite hysterical.
Matt.
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So long as they put something else in place I really don't see the problem. I've lived near to Arsenal's ground (Highbury/Emirates) for the last 10 years and no one drives to matches. But then this is London with a great public transport system.
So long as the council improve public transport there shouldn't be a problem. Maybe a park and ride scheme for match days.
So long as the council improve public transport there shouldn't be a problem. Maybe a park and ride scheme for match days.
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IF the Council did this, then there would be no problem, but of course they won't. We have a cr*p, very expensive system of public transport in Torbay and high cost car parks nowhere near Plainmoor. The Council won't provide Park & Ride for match days, nor will it improve public transport, because it is incapable of improving anything for the residents (it can only take away). Therefore this is a problem, and fans that live in Torbay (or have relatives & friends here) should fight those who wish to take away our match day parking.PhilGull wrote:So long as they put something else in place I really don't see the problem. I've lived near to Arsenal's ground (Highbury/Emirates) for the last 10 years and no one drives to matches. But then this is London with a great public transport system.
So long as the council improve public transport there shouldn't be a problem. Maybe a park and ride scheme for match days.
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For many years I parked without any problems in St. Marychurch Road until, one day after a match, I found a parking ticket (£70 fine) on the windscreen. Since then I have moved my match parking to Windsor Road where there is never any problem (apart from when the once a year-ers come out of the woodwork). Really, the best thing would be a park and ride service on match days. I can recall Football Specials which we used to catch from Castle Circus (when I lived in Abbey Road).
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I always got a primo spot on St. Marychurch road but since I got there at 9.15am this is not a surprise.
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I have parked close to Cary Park on the handful of occasions i've been to Plainmoor and had no problems. As far as i'm concerned the residents can **** off. So long as i'm not blocking their driveway i can park where the hell i damn well like! Maybe some of these householders without driveways should consider having them instead of them crying for doing exactly what we do on matchdays......PARKING ON THE EFFING ROAD!!!!!!!
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the miserable sods, its every other weekend and the odd tuesday night, hardly the end of the world is it. tory bar stewards the lot of em!
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Gee this post has got me angry.
I totally agree, we are not as free as we think, what with crooked MP's, councillors who are incompetent, emails and texts monitored, cctv cameras f ing everywhere, and ripped off by government and corporate organisations everytime you f ing breathe, AND NOW Parking around Torquay Utd threatened, bloody give up! Why dont they make it residents parking for 2 miles around Plainmoor and completely screw up the club, keep a few of the knobs happy no doubt!
I totally agree, we are not as free as we think, what with crooked MP's, councillors who are incompetent, emails and texts monitored, cctv cameras f ing everywhere, and ripped off by government and corporate organisations everytime you f ing breathe, AND NOW Parking around Torquay Utd threatened, bloody give up! Why dont they make it residents parking for 2 miles around Plainmoor and completely screw up the club, keep a few of the knobs happy no doubt!
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I come down to Torbay probably 15 times a year and I must admit to being surprised that there is a Transport Planning Group; there is certainly no evidence of that in the road system that purports to serve the bay.
I used to work on the Football Specials in the 60s and 70s from Brixham so how about parking 10-15 park and ride buses around Cary Park during match times; engines running and lots of shunting back and forwards ; cars might be welcomed back with open arms!
I used to work on the Football Specials in the 60s and 70s from Brixham so how about parking 10-15 park and ride buses around Cary Park during match times; engines running and lots of shunting back and forwards ; cars might be welcomed back with open arms!
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They'll probably put Parking meters up. We are talking about a Council so useless they put Parking meters up on Newton Road where there is virtually nothing down there apart from the Hospital and a few garages...
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We are talking about a Council so useless they put Parking meters up on Newton Road where there is virtually nothing down there apart from the Hospital and a few garages...
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We are talking about a Council so useless they put the pay station for the ERIC in such a place that you have to stand in the road to get a ticket!
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We are talking about a Council so useless they spend huge amounts of money on a new junction at Tweenaway which spends most of its time with lanes closed and results in worse traffic queues than before
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We are talking about a Council so useless they build death traps at traffic lights that go from 2 lanes to one in a a few feet which ignore the basic rules on traffic priority and allow the self important tw@ts to cut the rest of us up
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Please can we have a new centre half
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We are talking about a Council so useless they put the pay station for the ERIC in such a place that you have to stand in the road to get a ticket!
and
We are talking about a Council so useless they spend huge amounts of money on a new junction at Tweenaway which spends most of its time with lanes closed and results in worse traffic queues than before
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We are talking about a Council so useless they build death traps at traffic lights that go from 2 lanes to one in a a few feet which ignore the basic rules on traffic priority and allow the self important tw@ts to cut the rest of us up
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Please can we have a new centre half
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