GET Gary Owers, Martin Khul & Geoff Harrop OUT NOW
Posted: 22 Jan 2018, 16:57
Stop trying to justify Nicholson; he had an appalling close season signing treatment table fodder and the fitness was appalling too.
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Riviera Stadium Ltd announced its unaudited abridged accounts on 18 Dec 2017. These are made up to 31 March 2017.Teigngull wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 13:35 Well I know that merse, but it's the likes of arrywithanh that need convincing , he still seems to think Osborne is funding the the club with the kindness of his own wallet.
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"Do you honestly think CO is not already spending thousands of pounds of money from his own pocket ? How do you think the club is financing ?"
So yes Merse I know, but , it's the others that believe in OSBORNE THE SAVIOUR that need turning.
NO - I'm not in any way trying to justify Kevin Nicholson (although my opinion that he should have been allowed 10 games to turn things around has not changed). I am simply making a comparison between Nicho's final four games and Owers last five games.merse btpir wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 16:57 Stop trying to justify Nicholson; he had an appalling close season signing treatment table fodder and the fitness was appalling too.
Regardless of your views on Owers, it'd make precisely no sense to sack him now. The club is already down, sacking him now will cost a compensation payment that would be much better spent on next season's budget (ignoring the questions about CO). If the club has been anything approaching competent they'll have put a relegation break clause into Owers contract and we can get rid for free in the summer. No manager would be able to turn things around now, we're just too far behind.
I agree with that; and I also think that Owers' record is now untenable anyway.
Yes - I totally agree with your post. As I explained to Merse, I was merely comparing Nicho's record with Owers. There is the scenario that Owers will resign, of course. He certainly didn't sound exactly 'on top of the world' in his post-match interview on Saturday.SenorDingDong wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 17:22 Regardless of your views on Owers, it'd make precisely no sense to sack him now. The club is already down, sacking him now will cost a compensation payment that would be much better spent on next season's budget (ignoring the questions about CO). If the club has been anything approaching competent they'll have put a relegation break clause into Owers contract and we can get rid for free in the summer. No manager would be able to turn things around now, we're just too far behind.
And that is what this forum is all about Tomogull - opinion - so keep expressing yours without need of justification. There will be people who agree with your opinion equally as they do Merses opinion. On this topic my thinking is in line with yours, Nicho should have been allowed more games particularly as we never even had a managerial replacement lined up. To this end, it appears a sacking based on personalities rather than performance, so any opinions on the latter is really a moot point anyway.
We could - but I am with Merse's opinion on this one:DevonYellow wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 18:15 Can we not move on from Kevin bloody Nicholson?
It's quite possible, and indeed probable, that neither him nor Owers are up to the job.
merse btpir wrote: ↑21 Jan 2018, 21:28
That's why people ... inadvertently fall into their honey trap by calling for people like me to forget the past ~ a man who doesn't know his history can't shape his own destiny and we cannot have enough people knowing as much about everything as much as we can tell them about anyway.
It's the only way the club can survive!
DevonYellow wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 10:25 Or, to look at it another way, stop going and show there is no demand for a football club in Torquay.
The houses can then be built on Plainmoor and CO won't even need to pretend he is going to build a new ground as the public evidently don't want one.
Dangerous times.
It’s very difficult to make a conscious decision to proactively contribute to the demise of our football club by boycotting, however, if it is the only option assuming our club is dead then I could go along with it in order to force a positive change. What’s the worst that could happen? The recent threat on here has defo got through to CO and they must be concerned which culminated in a statement from them.Neal wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 19:45 Well I'm all for boycott and have NOT been persuaded against it.
The club is dying in its current state, many of you have stated that, of course you might not mean it.
The money that CO is putting in is (and I don't know that its a fact) most probably a loan as has been alluded too in earlier posts.
By boycotting and depriving the club of money might mean administration, it might be the end of the current club, and it could be the beginning of a phoenix club. In my opinion its worth the risk, because if you lot cannot see that the club is dying, you are blind and very naïve.
You are obviously a load of scared, unconfident, don't like change and got your head in the clouds. You come on here and they say the club is dying and you want to feed the current owners more money, I cannot believe it.
Best of luck with that.
There will not be a boycott, but individually people are boycotting already. I believe in taking risks, and yes a boycott IS A RISK, but at least it was an attempt to do something, not just hand money over like you are all going to do.
Again best of luck, and lets see who is right!
The owners and management of this club are one of 2 things.
Completely incompetent OR its all part of the 5 year plan, which funnily enough we don't know what that plan is
It's absoulety your right to boycott, no one's denying you, or anyone else the right to take such an action.Neal wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 19:45 Well I'm all for boycott and have NOT been persuaded against it.
By boycotting and depriving the club of money might mean administration, it might be the end of the current club, and it could be the beginning of a phoenix club. In my opinion its worth the risk, because if you lot cannot see that the club is dying, you are blind and very naïve.
You are obviously a load of scared, unconfident, don't like change and got your head in the clouds. You come on here and they say the club is dying and you want to feed the current owners more money, I cannot believe it.
Completely agree .forevertufc wrote: ↑22 Jan 2018, 20:28 It's absoulety your right to boycott, no one's denying you, or anyone else the right to take such an action.
Your not stupid, as I'm sure you know, phoenix club just doesn't happen, the current die's the new club doesn't slot right in it's place, a phoenix club needs good people, needs money and it needs a ground, TUST is currently short of good people and money, and as Merse has already said, if the current club die's, the lease die's with it, so there's no guranrantee FC Torquay could use Plainmoor.
Trust me none of us are blind,naive, scared nor do we have our heads in any clouds, your way off the mark to even suggest that. If the club died tommoroow, or 6 months, or 12 moinths down the line, TUST the only viable hope to lead a fan take are not ready, if that were to happen I'll tell you straight, and trust me, I'm not scared, TUFC will be lost forever.
Surely you must realise this is about buying TUST some time.