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Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:18
by hector
TeenageGull wrote:To be honest you on paper, the squad he assembled was brilliant considering our wage budget. Pearce lots of potential and god knows how we got chappell
That may indeed be the case. Just do not think Knill is the manager to inspire them to reach their potential.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:27
by wodger of awabia
At least the clown has realised at last that the team is not good enough for L2, & certainly not as good as last season. He has started to let players go out on loan & is trying to sign better players to replace them. Bad luck that he has lost Downes, but I.M.O. if he had signed Cooper there would not have been too much of a problem. October is another difficult month & points will not come easy given the teams that we have to play, he will have to get some decent players in fast if he is to start getting results & improving the poor side that he has assembled. I don't believe that he will be good enough to do the job.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:32
by rooster
hector wrote: That may indeed be the case. Just do not think Knill is the manager to inspire them to reach their potential.
Totally agree, he is not the messiah he was made out to be and is certainly struggling to live up to the expectation we seemed to have of him

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:53
by TeenageGull
This forum is so negative :-|

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:55
by Modgull
According to the Beeb we had 60% of the game, 7 corners to their one, 10 attempts on goal compared with their five and five on target compared with their three.

OK so the only really meaningful stat is the 2 to 1 goal tally but it does seem that we played well enough and were unfortunate to come away without a point.

I don't agree with the doom-merchants on the site - I think we have a better side in all positions than last year except for centre forward.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:55
by Modgull
According to the Beeb we had 60% of the game, 7 corners to their one, 10 attempts on goal compared with their five and five on target compared with their three.

OK so the only really meaningful stat is the 2 to 1 goal tally but it does seem that we played well enough and were unfortunate to come away without a point.

I don't agree with the doom-merchants on the site - I think we have a better side in all positions than last year except for centre forward.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:59
by rooster
That may be the case and don't disagree in some aspects but its all pointless if your continually losing..........

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 19:34
by Robiberto22
fans wanted knill, ... so get behind him? waaay too early to be calling for the axe - this aint man u :)

we made our bed and in the words of paul weller we'd better love it

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 19:36
by hector
TeenageGull wrote:This forum is so negative :-|
9 pts from 9 games. 4 defeats on top of very mediocre record of last season and previous management spells. What is there to be so positive about?

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 19:41
by TeenageGull
it doesnt mean we have to be calling "knill out" and we are going to be relegated . People should use this forum IMO as a way to spread optimism between each other and positivism. Well thats my view anyway

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 19:43
by lucy6lucy
Gullscorer wrote:Never mind, we're still in among the big clubs, Argyle, Portsmouth and Bristol Rovers, all on 9 points... :)
Five points away from the play-offs :)
and five points away from the relegation places... :(
This clearly shows how equal/competitive this league will be this season. I would be worried if we had created nothing and had 1 shot at goal, but that's not the case today. Yes we lost but we lost with dignity and had ago. I was very negative last season, purely because we couldn't create chances, this season we are but not having the rub of the green. We will in my opinion finish mid table with the emphasis on top 7 next season.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 19:52
by Plymouth Gull
A few points:

- on another day we would have won. first half was very even, perhaps we shaded it in possession and territory. Newport lined up with 3 centre halfs which nullified Ball. Chapell and Bodin looked very good, causing problems. The first goal was poor marking from a free kick (i feel that if Downes was in this would not have happened). The second was a break down the left past the very poor Dale Tonge and then their lad put it in when he could hardly miss. It was a bit smash and grab really and we didn't deserve to be 2-0 down.

Second half we started awfully, absolutely terribly. For a 10 minute spell it looked as if Newport would run riot, despite them not actually being that good. Then we took Chapell off and Azeez came on (which was a bizarre decision at the time), as Chapell had been one of our biggest threats. Anyway, within 5 minutes, what a transformation. Azeez is quick and very good with the ball at his feet. He drilled in after good work on the wing, game on. We had a spell whereby we created at least 4/5 decent opportunities to level it, yet we were just missing that final finish needed. We had what (from where I was) looked an absolute stonewaller of a pen turned down as the ref deemed Bodin to dive but it looked as if it was clearly a penalty from where I was, so I will look at that tomorrow.

We lost a bit of steam but still County struggled to really get out of their half, trying to use Zebroski on the counter attack. We kept pushing but couldn't grab an equaliser, though Newport nearly added a third late on when their lad beat Mansell (who ended at RB), but Rice denied him.

All in all the BBC stats mentioned above are correct, I felt we had the lions share of the game today. People moaning about Knill were obviously not there today.

We do need a CB in on loan though as while Cruise did okay today, I don't think that is a long term thing, and Nicho was fortunate today that he didn't come up against an out and out winger as Newport used wing backs.

Certainly room for improvement in finding the net, though Azeez looks a step up from Callum Ball so fingers crossed he can pick up where he left off today next weekend.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 20:07
by hector
I'm bored of reading, this season after games we have lost, from Knill apologists - the ones in the height delusion, calling for him to be given the job at the end of last season - that we were the better team, we had all the play, if it wasn't for this and it wasn't for that etc...it's nonsense!

Good teams do not lose 4 out of their first nine and remain only remotely clear of the bottom two because very bad teams are doing even worse. Sod the BBC stats. The stats that matter are that we scored one and Newport scored two.

Knill is a poor manager. In around March time, those with their heads in the sand will probably finally wake up to this realisation as well and then the club will when it is all probably too late.

Perhaps - and this bit is tongue in cheek for those unable to differentiate - it is all to do with the yellow and white stripes. As I previously mentioned during the voting period, this design has seen us lumbered with crap managers and relegation battles yet it is considered an iconic kit. The yellow and white stripes is indeed a thing of beauty but why it has to be tarnished with poor managers and poor teams perhaps has some mystical answer.

The 2013/14 version is the latest in a line of dodgy managers - Impey, Saunders, Golac, Compton, Saunders again, Knill. In 1993 - during a yellow and white stripes season, Warnock came in and saved us from relegation. In 2001, Colin Lee did the same in a season when yellow and white stripes was worn. Not sure who is available at the moment but some wise head needs to be in the book of Thea in readiness for Spring.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 20:16
by Plymouth Gull
Now Hector, obviously I respect your opinion and we're all entitled to one but I have to say that on a performance like we've put on today, we as supporters should NOT be unhappy. Yes we lost, but unlike the other defeats this campaign where we have been very lacklustre, we were the better side for 75/80 minutes today.

There are certainly positives to be had from that, and I fully expect us to revert to 4-4-2 next week with Azeez and Hawley up top which will hopefully cause more problems than Ball did. From the half hour we saw today, Azeez is the better option.

I acknowledge you may not think Knill is the right man for the job but while he is our manager and while we could be doing better, we have to support him. I'd agree very much with his thoughts on todays game and if we can replicate that level of performance and intensity then we will have no worries this season.

Re: Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 20:16
by gullintwoplaces
hector wrote:I'm bored of reading, this season after games we have lost, from Knill apologists - the ones in the height delusion, calling for him to be given the job at the end of last season - that we were the better team, we had all the play, if it wasn't for this and it wasn't for that etc...it's nonsense!

Good teams do not lose 4 out of their first nine and remain only remotely clear of the bottom two because very bad teams are doing even worse. Sod the BBC stats. The stats that matter are that we scored one and Newport scored two.

Knill is a poor manager. In around March time, those with their heads in the sand will probably finally wake up to this realisation as well and then the club will when it is all probably too late.

Perhaps - and this bit is tongue in cheek for those unable to differentiate - it is all to do with the yellow and white stripes. As I previously mentioned during the voting period, this design has seen us lumbered with crap managers and relegation battles yet it is considered an iconic kit. The yellow and white stripes is indeed a thing of beauty but why it has to be tarnished with poor managers and poor teams perhaps has some mystical answer.

The 2013/14 version is the latest in a line of dodgy managers - Impey, Saunders, Golac, Compton, Saunders again, Knill. In 1993 - during a yellow and white stripes season, Warnock came in and saved us from relegation. In 2001, Colin Lee did the same in a season when yellow and white stripes was worn. Not sure who is available at the moment but some wise head needs to be in the book of Thea in readiness for Spring.
What a load of old cr*p. Hector makes a virtue out of talking from his rear end. He didn't even go to today's game. I prefer to read comments from folk who actually went to the game.

I despair at the comments from so-called "fans", some of whom I suspect are trying, for whatever reason (Grecians?), to spread doom and gloom. Just shut the f**k up will you, your pessimism is both stupid and embarrassing. I look forward to rubbing your noses in your daft comments, as I will repeatedly, when we end up in a decent position at the end of the season.