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Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 23:27
by gullno4
forgot we didn't have poke !! this could be embarrassing !!
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 23:31
by SuperNickyWroe
gullno4 wrote:forgot we didn't have poke !! this could be embarrassing !!
yeah we might win 5-0 with rice scoring a pen...........
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 00:18
by yeovilgull
I think we need to shore up our defence which has conceded some sloppy goals lately and somehow strengthen the midfield whilst retaining some attacking options.
I`d go 5-3-2 for this one:
Rice
Leadbitter, Saah, Macdonald, Downes, Cruise
Oastler , Craig, Mansell
Benyon, Jarvis
This formation would surprise Gillingham, give us a bit more defensive strength whilst giving us attacking options through Leadbitter, Cruise and Craig. I`ve gone for Jarvis rather than Rene after seeing Rene`s non performance against Bradford and whilst not being a Jarvis fan he will fight for the ball and can head a ball if we can get crosses in from the wing backs.
Ok so I may be living in the past on this one and dreaming of those days of Gurney and Gibbs and it`s probably too late to start tinkering with formations but have we anything really to lose when everyone is expecting us to lose anyway.. I wouldn`t like us to go back to this style full time but as a one off I could see us maybe grinding out a 1-1 draw.
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 00:34
by RN Gull
I like it - but dream on!
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 08:04
by coley in stripes
Heard Gills manager Martin Allen on Radio Kent this morning saying that he can't see why they can't secure a convincing win in front of their fans tomorrow as it may be the day that they are promoted...Would have been nice if he had expressed some doubt, or used words like 'could' and 'if'...Therefore we will have to teach them a few lessons...............NOT
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 09:30
by AustrianAndyGull
Just hope we don't go 'extra' defensive to try and give Ricey some more cover as we'll just get blown away IMO. I am expecting the lads AND Knill to forget that Poke is out and Ricey is in and to just go with an attacking, pressing high up the pitch frame of mind as that is the only way we are going to get something.
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 09:38
by gullintwoplaces
It would be lovely to think that we could shut loudmouth Martin Allen's vey big gob for him. He was very outspoken after Torquay beat the Gills earlier in the season, something along the lines of being like an FA Cup tie for such a small team. I am pleased that he has opened his big trap again, it might help us just a teensie bit. It is always good to see pride come before a fall, but I suspect my hope is in vain.
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 10:12
by gullno4
Martin Allen is right in what he said, it's not exactly going to be a challenge for them is it !!
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 12:31
by ferrarilover
yeovilgull wrote:I think we need to shore up our defence which has conceded some sloppy goals lately and somehow strengthen the midfield whilst retaining some attacking options.
I`d go 5-3-2 for this one:
Rice
Leadbitter, Saah, Macdonald, Downes, Cruise
Oastler , Craig, Mansell
Benyon, Jarvis
This formation would surprise Gillingham, give us a bit more defensive strength whilst giving us attacking options through Leadbitter, Cruise and Craig. I`ve gone for Jarvis rather than Rene after seeing Rene`s non performance against Bradford and whilst not being a Jarvis fan he will fight for the ball and can head a ball if we can get crosses in from the wing backs.
Ok so I may be living in the past on this one and dreaming of those days of Gurney and Gibbs and it`s probably too late to start tinkering with formations but have we anything really to lose when everyone is expecting us to lose anyway.. I wouldn`t like us to go back to this style full time but as a one off I could see us maybe grinding out a 1-1 draw.
Just the three players out of position and a formation we haven't ever played before, yeah, I'm sure this'll work a treat...
Play players in their best positions. JOastler won't be a winger so long as he has a hole in his arse. Same with Manse. With this formation, we pose zero, and I mean absolutely ZERO attacking threat. Do you really think we can go to Gillingham and hold out for a nil-nil, with a third of the team in their wrong positions and no outlet up front?
Put players where they actually like/want/train to play and you'd be amazed at the outcome. Nathan Craig as a winger? Manse at right back? Hell, Danny in goal? Madness hamster is mad.
That said, this line up does have one redeeming feature, no Rene bloody Howe.
Matt.
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 12:37
by nickbrod
Alan Knill's comments on the OS tell me what he wants from tomorrow: "They have been top of the league and we know they are a good side. If we go to Gillingham hoping to get a point, we'll probably end up getting beaten."
The Manager knows what he wants, can the players deliver?
From recent evidence - Dagenham, Southend, Northampton - we seem to play better away.
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 12:39
by Scott Brehaut
Oastler and Manse wouldn't be on the wings though. The "wings" would be covered by Cruise and Leadbitter.
The midfield three would be in the centre, with Craig playing "in the hole".
Still, it's not going to happen - all speculation.
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 13:09
by tufcbrett
ricey had a big chance. I have faith he can do a good job for us. I know he's a cheap cover option but he still needs to be at a reasonable standard to be in our squad. If we was worried about cheap options i would be a sub keeper for less if they wanted.
I've seen him a few times and hes done alright. Need to get behind him instead of slagging the guy off before the game. Sad thing is any goal now they may score people will say its his fault what ever happened.
I wouldn't change the system because he's in goal. Being away from home at the leaders id probably put 5 in midfield and some pace on the wings to support the loam striker and cause the wing backs problems.
Were win.....
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 13:12
by ferrarilover
Scott Brehaut wrote:Oastler and Manse wouldn't be on the wings though. The "wings" would be covered by Cruise and Leadbitter.
The midfield three would be in the centre, with Craig playing "in the hole".
Still, it's not going to happen - all speculation.
That's even worse.
How hard is it? 4-4-2, we're English, not Italian, we play 4-4-2 and have done since we invented the game 150 years ago.
goalkeeper, right back, two centre backs, left back, right winger, two central midfielders, left winger, two centre forwards.
Poke (Rice), Leadbitter, Saah, Downes, Cruise, Mackers, Manse, Craig, Bodin, Benners, Yeoman. Everyone in their place and a place for everyone.
We don't see this musical positions in other jobs. You don't turn up at a bus depot only to find a driver answering the phones and the tea lady running the place while the MD operates the giant car wash and the finance manager does some conducting.
I can't imagine they're considering this crazy nonsense on the Gillingham board, I don't expect they want Fish in goal and Kedwell at centre back, and they're top of the League, so maybe take a leaf from their book and play players in their best positions. Please.
Matt.
Also, has RoadRunners Magic 8 Ball confirmed that Rice will definitely start?
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 14:24
by PlainmoorRoar
What do people think everyone else will do tomorrow?
Barnet v Chesterfield - Home Win
Bristol Rovers v Wimbledon - Home Win
Exeter v Dag & Red - Home Win
Gillingham v Torquay - Draw
Plymouth v Cheltenham - Draw
York v Accrington - Draw
Again i dont see anyone pulling away, its definitely going down to the last game of the season!
Re: Gillingham v Torquay United - 6/4/13
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 15:52
by royalgull
ferrarilover wrote:
That's even worse.
How hard is it? 4-4-2, we're English, not Italian, we play 4-4-2 and have done since we invented the game 150 years ago.
goalkeeper, right back, two centre backs, left back, right winger, two central midfielders, left winger, two centre forwards.
Poke (Rice), Leadbitter, Saah, Downes, Cruise, Mackers, Manse, Craig, Bodin, Benners, Yeoman. Everyone in their place and a place for everyone.
We don't see this musical positions in other jobs. You don't turn up at a bus depot only to find a driver answering the phones and the tea lady running the place while the MD operates the giant car wash and the finance manager does some conducting.
I can't imagine they're considering this crazy nonsense on the Gillingham board, I don't expect they want Fish in goal and Kedwell at centre back, and they're top of the League, so maybe take a leaf from their book and play players in their best positions. Please.
Matt.
Also, has RoadRunners Magic 8 Ball confirmed that Rice will definitely start?
a) not strictly true
b) fat lot of good that's done for 47 years
That side is laughable, pretty certain we'll go 4-5-1 maybe with a return for Ian Morris along with Lathrope, Benyon the sacrificial lamb. Chappell and Jarvis/Bodin out wide supporting Rene.