CP Gull wrote:
Well when you put it like that ..... YES! Although, I suppose we should really add Cruise to that list as he is only in effect being offered a "trial" in pre season with no guarantee of a contract offer.
With the likes of Benyon and Harding now added to the "not wanted" list the number of players who have been "listed" has now risen to an unhealthy EIGHT.
What does seem unfortunate is that there is a clear imbalance in the squad in that of those under contract only FOUR out of the TWELVE are deemed as wanted i.e. Pearce and Cameron, together with the youngsters Sullivan and Hutchings. Whilst of those out of contract, we wish to keep as many as SEVEN (Poke, Rice, Mansell, Lathrope, Bodin, Yeoman and Thompson) whilst only releasing TWO for definite (Nicholson and Stevens) or THREE (if you include Cruise) and probably FOUR (if you include Labadie).
It would clearly be far preferable if the MAJORITY of players that were under contract were in the Manager's plans and the MAJORITY of players who were out of contract were not! Unfortunately it is the reverse in both cases, which means that we have an awful lot of players on the transfer list, so much so that I cannot recall a time in recent memory where so many contracted players have been made available. In an ideal world, of course, all those players that Greavsie doesn't want will move on in the summer and all those players who he has offered new deals to will sign up .... but as we know, it is never that simple and I fully expect us to have a fair sprinkling of unhappy, unwanted players back next season whilst at the same time losing one or two of those we wanted to keep.
It is certainly going to be an interesting summer!
Very well put and the worry is, that with EIGHT unhappy, in effective players, we cannot get rid of (because let's face it, who is going to want the dross Knill lumbered us with), plus the players CH wishes to retain who are out of contract, we already have a large squad, made up of the same serial bottlers as last season.
I am pleased to see CH taking the action he is - it at least demonstrates he has a vision and some backbone - but circumstances beyond his control may prevent him from realising it, so it may be another year before we can judge him properly, as EIGHT players, if stuck with them, is a big chunk of his budget and squad space.
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Posted: 14 May 2014, 09:50
by wivelgull
I agree with hector.
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Posted: 14 May 2014, 10:28
by gullintwoplaces
wivelgull wrote:I agree with hector.
No, surely you mean Brucie?
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Posted: 14 May 2014, 16:49
by yellowforever
I agree with Wivel who agrees with Hector.
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Posted: 16 May 2014, 18:19
by Markh84
It looks like Joss Labadie will not be offered a new contract for next season.
CH also states he has secured four experienced trialists for pre-season. He is not naming names as yet. But it will be interesting to see who these players are.
He also gives his views on loan signings and that he has spoken to Spurs and Brighton about Shaq and Shamir, which is good!!
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Posted: 16 May 2014, 21:51
by AustrianAndyGull
If there is any way we can get Shaq back (cue fans campaign - GET THE SHAQ BACK!!) then I think we can sit back and enjoy the ride. He'd muller conference defences on his own.
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Posted: 16 May 2014, 23:14
by Rjc70
AustrianAndyGull wrote:If there is any way we can get Shaq back (cue fans campaign - GET THE SHAQ BACK!!) then I think we can sit back and enjoy the ride. He'd muller conference defences on his own.
Wonderful as it would be, I can't see Spurs wanting him to get Conference experience next season. Might get some joy with Brighton for Shamir. Really hope we do. Also, Greavsie on youtube vid did say 4 players, but only two of whom he said are particularly experienced. The other two I assumed were the young lads mentioned in yesterday's Herald from Southend and Welling.
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Posted: 16 May 2014, 23:35
by ferrarilover
I'd say different, Rob.
Hargreaves, speaking of the four triallists, is quoted on the BBC (which I realise is a bit like being quoted on Wikipedia, but it's what I'm running with)...
"Two have had quite a bit of League experience even though they're young, the other two are more experienced."
I make that two young but experienced, two old and experienced and also the two nippers you mention.
I haven't seen the youtube video (got a link?), so his words might be different there.
Matt.
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Posted: 16 May 2014, 23:45
by PlainmoorRoar
ferrarilover wrote:I'd say different, Rob.
Hargreaves, speaking of the four triallists, is quoted on the BBC (which I realise is a bit like being quoted on Wikipedia, but it's what I'm running with)...
"Two have had quite a bit of League experience even though they're young, the other two are more experienced."
I make that two young but experienced, two old and experienced and also the two nippers you mention.
I haven't seen the youtube video (got a link?), so his words might be different there.
Matt.
Link
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Posted: 17 May 2014, 00:02
by ferrarilover
Cheers Roar, you're a gentleman.
Matt.
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Posted: 17 May 2014, 00:54
by eastmoorgull
Cheers for the link - tbh if that interview doesn't inspire TUFC fans for pre season and the subsequent battle then not much will
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Posted: 17 May 2014, 16:02
by Neal
Thanks for the link
Great Interview, exactly what I wanted to hear. And thanks CH for doing that, it has relinquished any doubts I had. Its not his fault he has these contracted players, and it sounds like he is trying as hard as he can to get a decent squad for next season. Got my support now anyway!
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Posted: 17 May 2014, 22:38
by Mick83
Hello, with all this said where is Nathan Craig, not being funny but this guy has not even been given a chance, he should be retained and let him loose on the conference teams and see what he can actually do. Nico being released is a shame because I think he could have done some damage with that left foot of his. CH needs to get a shifty on to get a team together for start of the season. I have also heard on the great vine that Karl Baker is being looked at again
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Posted: 17 May 2014, 23:33
by hector
Mick83 wrote:Hello, with all this said where is Nathan Craig, not being funny but this guy has not even been given a chance, he should be retained and let him loose on the conference teams and see what he can actually do. Nico being released is a shame because I think he could have done some damage with that left foot of his. CH needs to get a shifty on to get a team together for start of the season. I have also heard on the great vine that Karl Baker is being looked at again
Why not get Les Lawrence back, while you are at it?
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Posted: 18 May 2014, 01:10
by gullno4
Mick83 wrote:Hello, with all this said where is Nathan Craig, not being funny but this guy has not even been given a chance, he should be retained and let him loose on the conference teams and see what he can actually do. Nico being released is a shame because I think he could have done some damage with that left foot of his. CH needs to get a shifty on to get a team together for start of the season. I have also heard on the great vine that Karl Baker is being looked at again
his left foot wasn't good in league 2, he can't hit the target or put the ball where he wants in league 2, the goals aren't going to move for him the conference!
