Player Search - Who Will Turn Up?

MellowYellow · Post by **MellowYellow** » 01 Jun 2018, 19:02

nickbrod wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 17:10 Starting afresh with new players, even if they take a while to gel, is what's needed.

If history is anything to go by - Owers has four games to gel the players. Hate to think the club would apply double standards.

nickbrod · Post by **nickbrod** » 01 Jun 2018, 19:23

But that's taking my comments out of context - expect better from a sunshine superman!

MellowYellow · Post by **MellowYellow** » 01 Jun 2018, 19:52

Really! So what do you mean?

Bearing in mind the Owers has been spending "weeks and weeks" planning for next season, Owers' first task will be to build a squad capable of bouncing back at the first attempt

How many games are you prepared to give him to gel the players?

nickbrod · Post by **nickbrod** » 01 Jun 2018, 20:50

Before deciding how many games I'm waiting judgment until I know what players make up the coming season's squad. The next four weeks should tell us the answer.

arcadia · Post by **arcadia** » 01 Jun 2018, 21:36

There is very little chance of bouncing back next season it's a wait and see job as there is very little to build on. Like a few have said in a few weeks time there might be light at the end of the tunnel.

Dazza · Post by **Dazza** » 01 Jun 2018, 22:01

We have been conned again. All the words from Osborne and Owers are just words and meant nothing. Like the Youth team and the reserve team it has all been a cheap con. All other sides are shaping for next season while we are failing yet again.

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 01 Jun 2018, 23:23

You do love a fit of the hysterics don't you Dazza :~D

What's wrong this time? Across the board contract stipulations at this level only finished yesterday and you're crying 'foul'

brucie · Post by **brucie** » 01 Jun 2018, 23:44

It hardly "takes a lot of courage" to move from Torquay to Wrexham. Bloody hell he has gone to play football - He isn't fighting the Taliban - get a grip (or a sense of reality). The blokes in his mid twenties for goodness sake.

Dazza - not entering a team in the Peninsula League is hardly any cause for concern. Do think about what you write.

Its a very poor standard of football.

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 02 Jun 2018, 07:46

moldroadred wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 13:20Seriously, takes a lot of courage to move so far from “home”, hope his mrs doesn’t get homesick.
Know he’s had injury problems but he’s been your player of the season for the last couple of years. What type of player are we getting?

Takes a lot of courage to move so far from “home”?

You're having a laugh aren't you? It's what footballers do unless they originate from one of the centres of the game. He's a big boy now; a partner and a kid and needs to man up and move away from mum and dad which he's made the commitment to do in order to secure some income for the next two years; which again is what footballers need to do in order to survive.

What type of player are you getting?

'Box to box' player with an eye for a pass but also (unfortuantely) an eye for an intimidatory opponent and so a tendency to disappear from the action for periods of the game.

Used to be able to shoot accurately from distance but seems to have lost his timing in that respect and so his goals from games ratio is diminishing; and hardly ever gets into those positions near goal where he can nick one on a regular basis.

Put an intelligent runner in front of him and you have a chance ~ it was only the on loan arrival of Elliot Romain and then Rhys Healey at the latter end of last season that provided that outlet for his passing ability ~ but make sure you have a 'minder' to protect him.

...and as has been identified by a former professional team manager on here before; he needs to be under strict instructions to focus more on his placing within the line-up and role demanded in order to eradicate the pointless running which so often diminishes his effectiveness and reduces his stamina to last ninety mintes.

Basically you've got a bog average non league footballer who's been lauded for being better than that in some pretty poor and dreadfully managed teams at Torquay ~ it didn't take much to get player of the season; it really didn't! A player who (let's face it) didn't get the offer he wanted from a Football League club, and so has been forced to up sticks and move home to even stand still in the game rather that allow the progressive slide his career has been taking by staying at Torquay United to continue.

MrTee75 · Post by **MrTee75** » 02 Jun 2018, 10:32

Fear for Gulls next season,think it'll be a standard season,mid table, they need signings quickly, stating the obvious there!, Seriously,it's a hard league,Owers is clueless, only in the job because he's a yes-man, it now makes you realise what a bloody good job Nicho did keeping us in the National league,

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 02 Jun 2018, 11:55

MrTee75 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2018, 10:32 makes you realise what a bloody good job Nicho did keeping us in the National league

....but left us with a squad riddeld with the sick, lame & lazy that went ten games without a win at the start of the season and so effectively set the agenda for relegation.

MellowYellow · Post by **MellowYellow** » 02 Jun 2018, 12:57

MrTee75 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2018, 10:32 Owers is clueless, only in the job because he's a yes-man, it now makes you realise what a bloody good job Nicho did keeping us in the National league,

Has it taken till now with Torquay at their lowest level for 89 years, playing regional football under a clueless management team and an owner with his own personal agenda to recognise that. Or is that a piece of sarcasm rather than being one of those who are unable to 'see the wood for the trees'.

Nonetheless, I am a fair man, and still prepared to give Owers the 'benefit of doubt'.

“Recruitment is king" are Owers own words and he has "one aim and that’s to win the league" and backs this up by telling us “ I know what it will take".

So I wait with 'bated breath'.

We certainly don't want a "bog average non league footballer" as Merse - rightly or wrongly -described Luke Young. So I am fully expecting Owers to entice top quality Football League players to leave their career pathway of football glory to come and play for a mighty regional football club in the 'back of beyond'. Anything else will be totally unacceptable, particularly as Owers has told us he has been spending "weeks and weeks" (just as Harrop did on his appointment) to get the recruitment right, namely top class players to bounce back at the first attempt.

(#Jackanory #Jackanory #Jackanory)

Wolborough · Post by **Wolborough** » 02 Jun 2018, 13:21

We will be lucky to even get bog average NL players I suspect. Owers has not exactly set the world alight!

greb46 · Post by **greb46** » 02 Jun 2018, 13:24

MellowYellow wrote: ↑02 Jun 2018, 12:57 Has it taken till now with Torquay at their lowest level for 89 years, playing regional football under a clueless management team and an owner with his own personal agenda to recognise that. Or is that a piece of sarcasm rather than being one of those who are unable to 'see the wood for the trees'.

Nonetheless, I am a fair man, and still prepared to give Owers the 'benefit of doubt'.

“Recruitment is king" are Owers own words and he has "one aim and that’s to win the league" and backs this up by telling us “ I know what it will take".

So I wait with 'bated breath'.

We certainly don't want a "bog average non league footballer" as Merse - rightly or wrongly -described Luke Young. So I am fully expecting Owers to entice top quality Football League players to leave their career pathway of football glory to come and play for a mighty regional football club in the 'back of beyond'. Anything else will be totally unacceptable, particularly as Owers has told us he has been spending "weeks and weeks" (just as Harrop did on his appointment) to get the recruitment right, namely top class players to bounce back at the first attempt.

(#Jackanory #Jackanory #Jackanory)

We'll see but Pinocchio springs to mind.

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 02 Jun 2018, 13:24

Don't confuse what's required to get the club up from the NLS in comparison to what got us into it in the first place...

'Top quality Football League players' as you describe them won't achieve it for the simple reason that any 'Football League' player poor enough to have to accept playing at this level is not good enough anyway.

Proven competitors at his level and winners are what is required; a lot the sort you seem to pine for are simply not winners at any level!

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