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DevonBee wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 19:37 Welcome back SG I thought u were in Qatar on a scouting mission to find us a decent midfielder or 3

Never left, far too busy approving posts for new members along with day to day tasks as well as removing half of the posts coming from Dawlish

Viable options would be those wanting to come and work within our budget constraints etc etc. Warnock on a 6 month deal? Great forward planning that is. Nah. I'm in the Stick camp.

Oh and Tisdale without Perryman is like Devon without cream.

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 20:06 Never left, far too busy approving posts for new members along with day to day tasks as well as removing half of the posts coming from Dawlish

Viable options would be those wanting to come and work within our budget constraints etc etc. Warnock on a 6 month deal? Great forward planning that is. Nah. I'm in the Stick camp.

Oh and Tisdale without Perryman is like Devon without cream.

I doubt Warnock would want it but in terms of long term planning I'd imagine its Gary Johnson equally on a 6 month deal. I dont think the question is if, its when. I cant see Gary Johnson being with us for the next season (unless he needs his ego flattered by trying to get promotion out of NLS) I cant see whats in it for him personally to stay on for 2023/24 so I think he'll go on his own accord or what would be mutual consent. The choices would be to let the guy who has got us into this mess get us out of it or that enough is enough. Either way the club do need to identify its management targets for 2023/24 if they choose to persist with Gary Johnson. Get past Xmas and I doubt any manager would want to take Torquay short term with the potential of adding relegation to their CV.

We're far from relegated. Plenty of time, it's only November

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 21:06 We're far from relegated. Plenty of time, it's only November

Not relegated yet but tell me which four other teams which are worse than us.....because I can not name one.

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 20:06 Never left, far too busy approving posts for new members along with day to day tasks as well as removing half of the posts coming from Dawlish

Viable options would be those wanting to come and work within our budget constraints etc etc. Warnock on a 6 month deal? Great forward planning that is. Nah. I'm in the Stick camp.

Oh and Tisdale without Perryman is like Devon without cream.

At least the other half of my brilliant posts slip through the net, speaking of which do the players know exactly where the net on a football pitch actually is?

North Curry House wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 21:30 Not relegated yet but tell me which four other teams which are worse than us.....because I can not name one.

It isn't about leading the race it's about winning it. I'll name them when the season finishes.................

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 18:33 I'm still here and still think stick.
Quite amusing seeing some of you disappear when we have a win but until one of you Sherlocks come up with a viable replacement I'm standing behind an experienced manager to add a couple of players to see us ease up the table to safety with a few games to go

I never remember you suggesting 'viable replacements' when you were leading the Harrop and Owers out campaigns on this forum a few years ago.

Tisdale was successful at a club producing young talent, who were sold on for profit. I just can't see it working here for him, having to scour the bargain bins. Plus he wouldn't want another fail on his CV.
Warnocks retired, why sign on for a stressful 6 months? He was brilliant for us before, but that was a long time ago now.
Who else is there?

Chelston TUFC wrote: ↑27 Nov 2022, 19:24 Paul Tisdale, Paul Wotton, Scott Bartlett

I would also put the name of Paul Trollope forward. Back living in the Bay and an experienced player and manager - worth considering!

Cheddargull wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 10:47 I never remember you suggesting 'viable replacements' when you were leading the Harrop and Owers out campaigns on this forum a few years ago.

Thing about Owers, is that everyone wanted him out........ :}
.......Seeing he was f*cking useless.
A blind man on a galloping horse could see that.

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 09:00 It isn't about leading the race it's about winning it. I'll name them when the season finishes.................

It is almost over now! So I take it you can not name any, let alone four.

yellowarmygull wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 11:37 .

I would also put the name of Paul Trollope forward. Back living in the Bay and an experienced player and manager - worth considering!

Trollope has just gone to Luton, assistant to Rob Edwards.

SuperNickyWroe wrote: ↑28 Nov 2022, 12:36
Thing about Owers, is that everyone wanted him out........ :}
.......Seeing he was f*cking useless.
A blind man on a galloping horse could see that.

During Owers time in this division we achieved 1.08 points per game.
So far this season we have achieved 0.71 points per game.
That is how bad things are at present and a lot of people can't see it getting any better. Talk of things getting better with a couple of signings are nonsense, we already have too many loan signings which a sign of how bad the original permanent signings were.
To be honest if you were Osborne would you trust Johnson with anymore money?

As a football club we are anything but normal in that we actively support and encourage a losing formula, we have a chairman and Managing director whose self proclaimed knowledge of football could be written on the back of a postage stamp and still leave room for an address, we have several directors that are totally anonymous other than being wrapped in warm blankets on match days and a management team that would not get their CV's through the door of any football club in the modern age, So why do we continue with this formula, perhaps and realistically because there is no alternative, the one thing you can bet your pension on is that Osborne will have done his sums. Our crowds are down as you would expect even though they are artifically inflated by community freebies, sponsors will be increasingly hard to find, who wants to be associated with a club that is sinking fast.
Can things change, and boy do they need too, any new manager/coach and in this league we do not need two people must be given a realistic time frame to achieve that change, Johnson has proved that he is incapable of modern thinking or even changing his one dimensional playing style, he has shown systematically this season and last that he cannot acquire players sufficently qualified for this league. We are already two wins and a draw away from getting out of the bottom four and thats assuming no one else picks up a single point .
So on this occasion Southampton Gull I disagree with your stick option.

Keep with Gary!