Newport v Torquay United. 28/09/2013

[bengull]

A quick read of Jordan Chapell's twitter would suggest that he isn't injured and the change was purely tactical. I didn't join in with the boos but was as perplexed as those who did, he was our brightest spark in the first half and Newport weren't exactly sure how to handle him. Those present at Sixfields know that it doesn't matter how much effect he has on the game, he has the quality to make the difference in a split second. With 3 central midfielder to choose from, did JC really need to be sacrificed? Agree with your point though re Azeez, not an ideal way to enter the fray, he looked excellent when he came on though, begs the question though how much more potent we would have looked with both Chapell and Azeez on the pitch?

Secondly, Steve Breed is a top bloke and as passionate and genuine gulls fan that you will find anywhere. He should not be criticised for performing a selfless act, he should be applauded. I bet no-one here would have the balls to do a radio commentary, and i bet everyone would moan had there been no commentator at all. The man did everything he could with the circumstances at his disposal, you can't ask for any more than that.

[brucie]

FL - apart from the message about him learning to count (which was meant to be lighthearted) everything else I posted about the match commentary was in my view fair.
I did in fact post that he was a good summariser and also posted a message after the Dagenham away game last year saying that he had made the commentary exciting.
If you and several other posters are mates of his then all well and good but it doesn't alter the fact that the radio commentary was poor.
I don't want to labour the point but a poster above did say that he didn't keep getting the score wrong which is incorrect.
I was listening to the game on countywide. When I turned on the radio on the drive back from a local game the studio presenter went to the Torquay commentary of the Azeez goal.
Five minutes after I switched on the radio I still thought we were winning as Steve Breed repeatedly said it was 1-0 to us.
If he thought we were 1-0 in the lead when we were two one down his view must have been bloody awful - in fact he must have been blindfolded. (Thats a joke and isn't meant to be taken seriously)
On a serious note though I don't really see why anyone needs to get upset about a few flippant comments posted on a message board.
There are far more important things in life to worry about.

[hector]

Again, you're just demonstrating that you know the sum total of three fifths of f**k all about the game.

Matt.

And I suppose someone suggesting weren't 'properly' beaten when we were in fact...err, beaten, knows plenty about football...except, perhaps the rules.

[TeenageGull]

Well according to steve brucie these comments are important to him......

[brucie]

Ben - Knill definately said that Chapell was injured so in that case he must be a liar then. Whether Steve is a top bloke or not has no bearing on his performance as a football commentator. Thats just not relevant at all. You could have picked ten Torquay supporters out of the crowd. They might all have been worse than him, they might all have been better.

[hector]

Ben - Knill definately said that Chapell was injured so in that case he must be a liar then. Whether Steve is a top bloke or not has no bearing on his performance as a football commentator. Thats just not relevant at all. You could have picked ten Torquay supporters out of the crowd. They might all have been worse than him, they might all have been better.

I think to judge Steve Breed's 'performance' as a commentator is just not relevant or fair. It would like judging you as a skier or an astronaut. It is not his job. He is not even being paid for it. He does it as a favour.

[A Realist]

FL - apart from the message about him learning to count (which was meant to be lighthearted) everything else I posted about the match commentary was in my view fair.
I did in fact post that he was a good summariser and also posted a message after the Dagenham away game last year saying that he had made the commentary exciting.
If you and several other posters are mates of his then all well and good but it doesn't alter the fact that the radio commentary was poor.
I don't want to labour the point but a poster above did say that he didn't keep getting the score wrong which is incorrect.
I was listening to the game on countywide. When I turned on the radio on the drive back from a local game the studio presenter went to the Torquay commentary of the Azeez goal.
Five minutes after I switched on the radio I still thought we were winning as Steve Breed repeatedly said it was 1-0 to us.
If he thought we were 1-0 in the lead when we were two one down his view must have been bloody awful - in fact he must have been blindfolded. (Thats a joke and isn't meant to be taken seriously)
On a serious note though I don't really see why anyone needs to get upset about a few flippant comments posted on a message board.
There are far more important things in life to worry about.

If he did repeatedly give the incorrect score then I'll stand corrected and apologise for that. I never noticed it and it seems that a few others didn't either.

However, it was mainly your comment that "if he ever does another game you will switch off" which seems a bit below the belt. Granted you cant be expected to know him well (or you may, I dont know) but to suggest that his ability to cover the match is more important to you than the actual game did and does seem to be personal. Even if its not, or wasn't intended that way, thats how it looks to some and as Matt explained, his friends an family do read that kind of stuff.

I'm sure he doesn't want everyone to be a sycophant but I'm even more sure that he doesn't want the team to be detracted from because of him.

[ferrarilover]

Yes but to save aggravating injury, it was a wise decision, is it not? Bodin was doing fine on the other side, causing as many problems as Chapell in my opinion. Ball was pretty useless, but I think that was his final appearance for the club really..

When you say 'central two', who do you mean, considering we only had Ball..

We didn't know that at the time. As it stood, with all the information the fans had to work with, the decision to sub Chappell was very strange and we responded accordingly. It was as much for the benefit of Chappell, so he knew we all appreciated his impact.

Central midfield two, Manse and Harding.

Matt.

[ferrarilover]

And I suppose someone suggesting weren't 'properly' beaten when we were in fact...err, beaten, knows plenty about football...except, perhaps the rules.

MISSING. THE. POINT.

THICK. AS. SHIT.

**** me, how you have defeated Darwin up to this point is a mystery.

Matt.

[hector]

Yes, missing the point. We weren't properly beaten at Rochdale and Newport because they didn't hammer us.

The other three defeats, are all down to bad luck and poor refereeing. Because of course, when you lose 45% of your matches it isn't the teams fault. It's just circumstances.

[bengull]

But those ten Torquay fans wouldn't have done the job, i certainly wouldn't. It takes a brave man and a good man to put themselves into that position. I wouldn't have gone there, talked through a match where my side lost, biting my tongue at every moment when my immediate instinct would be to rant and swear profusely, to speak articulately without saying anything libellous or offensive when every sinew would be telling me to do so having found my team 2-0 down due to poor defending or having Bodin booked for a dive that wasn't. Nor do I have any care of the 11 Newport players on the pitch, certainly no care to learn their names, i have no care to learn how to break to updates to another match or whatever broadcasting procedures need to be done. I wouldn't want to compromise all the freedom i have as a supporter to enjoy day (a day off from work commitments) out as i deem fit to do an unpaid job that risks the wrath of people miles away. It is far too easy to criticise from the comfort of your sofa, far easier than the mountain of a job that Steve faced. Steve has my total respect.

[ferrarilover]

Yes, missing the point. We weren't properly beaten at Rochdale and Newport because they didn't hammer us.

The other three defeats, are all down to bad luck and poor refereeing. Because of course, when you lose 45% of your matches it isn't the teams fault. It's just circumstances.

Do you not understand the concept of losing a match and being beaten in a match being different? Do you really not, after many, many years of watching football, conceive of the idea that a team can be comfortably the equal of the opposition without scoring a greater number of goals then them?
Maybe if you actually went to a match rather than reading the results in the paper, you'd be able to understand this.

We were properly and completely hammered at Fleetwood, they were better than us in every department and we deserved to lose the match by at least the three goals which we did. New lost to Newport 2-1 having been the better side for an hour and a half and having played better than we did the week before when we won 4-2. These two 'on paper' defeats are the same, these two 'in reality' defeats are entirely different.

Play like we did against Fleetwood every week and we'll go down. Play like we did against Newport every week and we'll be safe by early February.

You'll either understand this and pretend you don't in order to curry favour with other stupid members, or you genuinely won't get it. your reply will be the same in either case. As someone's tag line almost says, "I'm giving up arguing with an idiot before he drags me down to his level and beats me with experience."

Matt.

[yellowforever]

I feel really we need someone slightly more eloquent performing the main role. He does a great job as a summariser though, and his passion for the club is infectious. He's the sort of character that I'm not sure you find at clubs at the top of the proverbial food chain, and for that, I'd love him to have a prominent role at the club.

[yellowforever]

Matt's line of argument about 'deserving performances' is a valid one at this stage in the season. That said, points will eventually need to follow performances and we aren't quite clinical nor solid enough yet. Time is on our side, there are teams in this division that are far worse and we at least look like we'll get better.

[PlainmoorRoar]

It's a good opportunity for radio Devon to get a Torquay commentator in maybe wants to work in a radio and being a Torquay fan can bring the needed passion for it