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So what do we need......?

Posted: 22 Jun 2016, 23:02
by Lloyder5
Agree, Rees was largely an unsung hero but I thought he did a great job of holding things together.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 01:32
by Markh84
I will be very disappointed if Nicho does decide to bring back Lathanial Rowe-Turner. I don't think he is the same player he was when we had him before and his career is on a downward spiral. Both of the teams he has played for in the National League over the last two seasons have been relegated (Alfreton and Kidderminster). He also spent the last few months of last season (when Kidderminsters form improved) on loan at Nuneaton where i have just read he conceded TWO penalties in one game!! Surely there must be better players out there that we could afford?

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 10:12
by Gulliball
I agree that we need a more proven defender, in whichever position McGinty is not earmarked for, and he's more recently been a left back. We're missing a solid central defender to complete our spine and then we have Verma to cover at right back, Gerring/McGinty in the centre and Nicholson at left back. With the squad we have I just don't see him being a good fit. We need cover in midfield and up front, and starting players in defence, and I don't think he's either of those. McGinty is still young and has previously done well at this level, whereas LRT is dropping a level with every move he makes.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 10:17
by Lloyder5
I would have thought Verma will be first choice right-back for most of the season

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 10:39
by PhilGull
I don't think with our budget we are going to be able to have top quality in every position. I'm quite happy with LRT, I think he has the attitude if not the ability.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 11:46
by Stevie_RitchTea
Who says Verma even wants to play first choice RB next season?

We could be cheeky and nick back Joe Oastler from Aldershot too to make the trio :whistle:

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 13:11
by Lloyder5
Stevie_RitchTea wrote:Who says Verma even wants to play first choice RB next season?

:whistle:
Imagine where Verma plays is down to the manager

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 14:28
by Gulliball
Playing a midfielder at right back for 6 games when you have none fit and the transfer/loan window is closed is one thing. Playing a midfielder at right back for 6+ months when the transfer window is open all year round and you start with a completely fresh slate of 0 contracted players is quite another, and I very much doubt that is the plan. For a start we'll need Verma to play in midfield, where he is best and can add the most to the team.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 14:47
by PhilGull
I'm not holding my breath for Verma to play in midfield. If we are to play 4-4-2 then surely Young and Lathrope will be first choice in there. As for this idea that a player can only play in one position - rubbish! Verma showed he is more than capabale to play at right back, we have two very good midfielders and no one else to play right back so why not play Verma there?
If Man Utd can play Young and Valencia as full-backs or England can play Rooney in midfield then I'm pretty happy for our best right-back to play right-back! The fact he is also really good in midfield is a massive bonus.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 15:13
by Lloyder5
PhilGull wrote:I'm not holding my breath for Verma to play in midfield. If we are to play 4-4-2 then surely Young and Lathrope will be first choice in there. As for this idea that a player can only play in one position - rubbish! Verma showed he is more than capabale to play at right back, we have two very good midfielders and no one else to play right back so why not play Verma there?
If Man Utd can play Young and Valencia as full-backs or England can play Rooney in midfield then I'm pretty happy for our best right-back to play right-back! The fact he is also really good in midfield is a massive bonus.
Agree, I would say he influenced games more from right-back. With a little more time he was able to bring a bit of quality to right-back.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 15:22
by tomogull
Stevie_RitchTea wrote:Who says Verma even wants to play first choice RB next season? We could be cheeky and nick back Joe Oastler from Aldershot too to make the trio :whistle:
Nope - it aint going to happen. Some would say 'Thank Gawd for that'. Joe has signed for Gosport Borough along with former gulls Martin Rice and Aaron Dawson. They join the unforgettable Ben Harding who is already there.

I see that Scott Rendell has signed for Aldershot so he aint coming back neither !!

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 15:50
by DJ Gull
tomogull wrote: Nope - it aint going to happen. Some would say 'Thank Gawd for that'. Joe has signed for Gosport Borough along with former gulls Martin Rice and Aaron Dawson. They join the unforgettable Ben Harding who is already there.

I see that Scott Rendell has signed for Aldershot so he aint coming back neither !!
Probably not Nicho's choice of character in that case then, Luke young chose to be loyal in return for TUFC carrying him during his injury for most of last season.
Scott Rendell suffered a nasty injury and the Woking suppoters raised thousends for his opperation, and then he leaves at the end of it all.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 16:51
by chunkygull
Stevie_RitchTea wrote:Who says Verma even wants to play first choice RB next season?

We could be cheeky and nick back Joe Oastler from Aldershot too to make the trio :whistle:
No thanks, he was absolutely bloody awful!

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 17:38
by Gulliball
PhilGull wrote:I'm not holding my breath for Verma to play in midfield. If we are to play 4-4-2 then surely Young and Lathrope will be first choice in there. As for this idea that a player can only play in one position - rubbish! Verma showed he is more than capabale to play at right back, we have two very good midfielders and no one else to play right back so why not play Verma there?
If Man Utd can play Young and Valencia as full-backs or England can play Rooney in midfield then I'm pretty happy for our best right-back to play right-back! The fact he is also really good in midfield is a massive bonus.
I would agree that the reason that Verma was offered a deal was that he can play in more than one position. He's an option for us in the centre of midfield, on the right wing, if we play with a narrow 442 or 3 in midfield, playing just off the forward, right back...

I think it's a stretch though to make him our first choice right back, because for him to be our first choice right back he'd have to be the only right back, meaning a) we'd have no cover there if he got injured and b) he'd have to play at right back and wouldn't be an option in any of the other positions, thus losing the advantage of having a player like him in a small squad.

Durrell Berry isn't under contract at the moment, and won't play until Christmas as best, so we need a plan for the first half of the season. A 6 month deal or loan signing would make a lot more sense than having Verma as the only right back option.

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Posted: 23 Jun 2016, 17:43
by Gulliball
DJ Gull wrote: Probably not Nicho's choice of character in that case then, Luke young chose to be loyal in return for TUFC carrying him during his injury for most of last season.
Scott Rendell suffered a nasty injury and the Woking suppoters raised thousends for his opperation, and then he leaves at the end of it all.
In fairness Woking had no insurance so the options were either wait and get treated on the NHS with the subsequent delay or raise money to pay for the operation. The fundraising brought the standard of treatment up to the level that any responsible club would have had in the first place.