Bath Away jan 19th
Posted: 20 Jan 2019, 12:46
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I am sorry to say but if you truly believe this then you are very naive.gateman49 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 11:59 Having slept on the matter and reflected on what I saw at very close quarters it seems blindingly obvious to me that the crowd trouble was caused by an external element. It's not rocket science to work out that Bristol City were away yesterday and neither were they playing at Ashton gate when we played WSM.
When I (perhaps foolishly) went and remonstrated with the idiots after our second goal I only saw one with a blue and yellow scarf. All the rest had no identifiable allegiance which is strange behaviour for true Torquay fans (even that scarf could have been sourced from elsewhere). Neither did I recognise any of them as Plainmoor faithful.
In addition, I witnessed some strange happenings at the kick off as there were two separate centres of chanting. One was behind the goal and contained many faces that I did recognise so it was clearly comprised of Torquay fans. They threw balloons etc into the air when the players came out and were in a boisterous and noisy mood but no more.
The segregation barrier which divides the away end roughly two thirds and one third had all of its access gates open and I and my family had taken a position in what I thought was a quieter part of the away end in the 'one third' part beyond the barrier. Just before kick off a group of about 50 or so had formed in front of where we were stood and when our fans started to chant they opened up with one of their own. My opinion is that, if they were also genuine Torquay fans they would have joined the main group behind the goal but they stayed where they were until we scored our first.
It was then that they ran to the dividing fence and were joined by a bunch of Bath thugs for that initial punch up.
Eventually, the police had 'spotters' where the trouble flared so I presume that they may be able to help identify where the thugs were from and a photographer arrived half way through the second half taking a considerable number of photos of these hooligans so that too could be used for evidence gathering as well as the photos taken from within the Bath enclosure.
I hope that lessons have been learned as we still have one more match to play not too far from Bristol.
Well I’d certainly like to see them, I’m not sure who else would but I’d just like to see how many have seen them at a TQY match beforeyellowsmiffy wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 12:48 I've got some very clear photos and vids of those involved. Is it against forum rules to post them on here in a name and shame?
Send a pm to satnav. He is in a position to do the right thing with such info.yellowsmiffy wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 12:48 I've got some very clear photos and vids of those involved. Is it against forum rules to post them on here in a name and shame?
I saw what I saw and I make no claim to have seen all of the idiots but only those around me. I saw nobody that I recognised but if others from Torbay were involved then they are just as bad but they are not Plainmoor attendees.Kingsgull83 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 14:20 I am sorry to say but if you truly believe this then you are very naive.
Why couldn’t Torquay fans be the culprits for said behaviour? Yes they may not be scalf wearing regulars but from what I could see they were from Torquay and wanna be Danny Dyer youths.
I recognised some old faces (sad middle aged men) from years ago who I am sure turn up for big games now to throw their weight around against small teams.
The fighting was a disgrace and a poor reaction to going a goal behind. I personally don’t have a problem with the odd smoke bomb or a couple of people spilling onto the pitch to celebrate a sling as it is good natured. This has always and will always take place at football up and down the country.
I'm sure that one can buy lots of dangerous things quite easily and with the correct licence you can buy a gun.Kingsgull83 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 15:47 No deadly serious, but I am happy to be proved wrong on the smoke bomb front, I can’t remember seeing any smoke bomb related deaths. Just a quick search and you can even buy them on amazon. ‘Alexa buy me a smoke bomb’
It's not against the rules (M) but probably best to send them to the club and they can decide what to do with regard to Police etc. Most I would expect they would rather deal with privately so as to lessen the impact on the Club if you get my drift.yellowsmiffy wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 12:48 I've got some very clear photos and vids of those involved. Is it against forum rules to post them on here in a name and shame?
Totally agree! Great vlog Midland gull and thanks for sharing! For an exiled Torquay fan really enjoyable watch. I know there seems like there were a few idiots there! But on the whole seems like a terrific atmosphere. Sometimes it's so hard to believe we are in national league south with the support!