Management options

[Yorkieandy]

I still think Russ Wilcox would be an ideal choice. He'll tighten things up for sure and get points on the board and although it won't be particularly entertaining, he'll look to add creativity in the middle gradually. It just didn't work for him at York which is understandable given the way the club is run. He did bring in some decent players on loan, he's certainly got contacts in the game.

[Southampton Gull]

Spot on ~ and for that you can thank the sycophants who were cheer leading for an out of his depth manager and celebrating scraping by and just avoiding relegation as some sort of achievement.

Now we see the legacy of that.

Codswallop.

We're seeing the legacy of not supporting the last proper manager we had during his illness. We've been leading up to this for years, not just because of a relegation battle or two under an inexperienced manager. Get off his back, Jesus.

[gateman49]

Dave

The only point of disagreement that I have with you is your use of the word 'up'. It's a sad fact that the club has been in a downward spiral for that period.

Trying to see my cup as half full rather than half empty (or even too damned large), we are clearly at a crossroads. I trust that the last set of results will have concentrated a few minds other than those of us who vent our spleens here and that the managerial choice proves, to quote others, to be 'a good thing'.

Despite everything, the potential is still there, as evidenced by the crowd at the last match of the previous season, and by the home attendances this season.

[Southampton Gull]

We all heard the talk of how they were going to help Nicholson, the new head of recruitment plus a general manager "with contacts in the game" yet they were all for the cheap options when they were signed, the same group of players we all thought of as an improvement over last years squad. Now it can only be the fault of one man yet still we're losing with a series of gutless displays from a depleted squad and can't even fill the bench. So much for the more business like and professional setup.

Yes it is embarrassing, yes fans are deserting in their droves and who can blame them when this is all being overseen by the general manager and head of recruitment who so far seem untouchable. They've managed to sack a manager and change absolutely NOTHING. three games where performances are going backwards. There is no improvement in anything the supposed experts on here have identified as the Nicholson problem. No formation change, no real positional changes unless through necessity.

We can see the results of a piss poor budget, yes slightly improved over last season but not enough to sign anything better than what we have. Our keeper is an improvement for sure but he's played with an injury all season and along with the missing Gowling that's half the spine of the side gone for now. Forseeable? Maybe, maybe not but we don't have the funds or the off field support network to get better. 7 games in and Harrop has actually managed to put us in a worse position than we were in when he sacked the manager. When will his role in all this be highlighted, disected and put out there?

[merse btpir]

...... still we're losing with a series of gutless displays from a depleted squad and can't even fill the bench. So much for the more business like and professional setup.

That's because it's under the charge of Nicholson's acolyte, the wholly useless Herrera who is as ineffective and deficient in the technical area as Shaun Taylor was.

Until he too is pointed in the direction of the Job Centre; the unbalanced line-ups, the unfit for purpose players brought in on short contracts like Fallon, Howarth and Lavercombe; the lack of fitness resulting in a collective inability to handle three games in two days and retention of such as Anderson will continue to send this club further and further into the abyss into which it is now heading......and don't call me Jesus; I'm far better on crosses than that guy or Lavercombe ever were!

[desperado]

Thankfully Herrera has blown any chance he had of being involved in the new set up
He has failed spectacularly to lift and inspire the team
Bring on the new manager quick and lets hope he brings a midfield player coach with him (as well as
a goalkeeper, left back and centre forward) and hope he has voice on him. I have never witnessed such
a quiet team, they dont help each other

[westyorkshiregull]

Nearly 2 weeks now without a manager and little has come out from the club. It doesn't take 2 weeks to find a suitable manager. Maybe they can't find a manager who can see things from there way of thinking just like the paying fans can't either. I also think they wanted herrera to do well in these 3 games and employ him as cheap option

[Southampton Gull]

That's because it's under the charge of Nicholson's acolyte, the wholly useless Herrera who is as ineffective and deficient in the technical area as Shaun Taylor was.

Until he too is pointed in the direction of the Job Centre; the unbalanced line-ups, the unfit for purpose players brought in on short contracts like Fallon, Howarth and Lavercombe; the lack of fitness resulting in a collective inability to handle three games in two days and retention of such as Anderson will continue to send this club further and further into the abyss into which it is now heading......and don't call me Jesus; I'm far better on crosses than that guy or Lavercombe ever were!

No it isn't it's under the charge of Fat Harrop. He blamed Nicholson and sacked him, now we're expected to blame Herrera? Fallon was brought in for a couple of hundred a week on a pay if you play deal because the funds were not made available for a fit for purpose striker. Lavercombe was the Fatman's choice.............

[kevgull]

The whole Board of Directors are a disgrace to TUFC and not just the previous manager. Somehow we have mismanaged the income of nearly 1800 fans and squandered it on what?

I truly believe that it will be the Board and Budget that will eventually get us relegate, despite the nous or experience of any incoming manager.

Tallan Mitchell - not ready
Osborne - not ready
Fallon - Carthorse
Davis - not fit, no suitable back up brought in after all the preseason friendlies and 7 league games, WHY!
Lathrop - not good enough
Anderson - not good enough
Reid - flashes of inspiration in a circus act
Chaney - completely stitched up

THATS ONLY 3 PLAYERS SHORT OF A PUB SIDE!

Harrop, Herrera and the appointed scout are probably taking the best part of 100K from our budget and what have we seen from the fruits of their labour?

Answer = A pile of playing shite!

[arrywithanh]

No it isn't it's under the charge of Fat Harrop. He blamed Nicholson and sacked him, now we're expected to blame Herrera? Fallon was brought in for a couple of hundred a week on a pay if you play deal because the funds were not made available for a fit for purpose striker. Lavercombe was the Fatman's choice.............

You forgot to mention that KN did have targets for a big striker but none were interested! It is not just to do with money...

[Colorado Gull]

You forgot to mention that KN did have targets for a big striker but none were interested! It is not just to do with money...

Probably to do with the location, running of the club, position of the club, lack of wages...

[hector]

One of the things that KN spoke about was the experience he had signed. He made a big point in his lament on BBC of how he had persuaded these 'experienced players' to buy into what he wanted to do.

Whether or not people felt these were decent signings or the journeymen they appear to be, does not excuse the role of the manager who recruited them. A big thing was made of 'character first, ability second' so if the character of these players is such that ability has been overlooked, then the meek surrender, in the last three games and also the games Nicholson was in charge, do not really sit well with the hype KN, himself, promoted about this squad.

The one point only came against 9 men and since then it has been dreadful, with Nicholson and without. Is anyone really deluded enough to think that had he remained, the outcomes of the games against Guiesley, Solihull and Woking would have been any different. By all accounts the performance at Guiseley was the best of the season but that is how low we sunk under Nicholson's reign, in even in defeat to park teams, people were starting to take solace. We have had managers in the past who have - in the context of the division they were in - built successful teams on budgets far lower than their counterparts (O'Riordan in 94 and Hodges in 98 spring to mind) and whilst they contained players we couldn't afford now, that was in a division higher.

There was a cult of personality surrounding KN that was largely because of his passion for the club, the extraordinary lengths he went to, to harness positive relationships with the community but nothing to do with his management of the team because had he been anyone else, then fans would have hounded him out of the club during his first season of management.

The nonsense of the constant reference to 'Great Escape Mk1 and Great Escape MK2' in the post-sack interviews, as if these are achievements that rank with play-offs and promotions, is an affront to supporters watching their club dwindle and struggle in the depths of this bloody awful division. Those were self-inflicted. The team dropped like a stone when he first took over from Paul Cox and likewise, last season, the team he built fell into the relegation trap door and surrendered meekly to teams with 10 men, to teams with no goaly and the performances, regardless of the charlatans who own our club, were sackable.

[budegull1954]

In reply to kevgull's wholly accurate assessment of the current squad and lack of direction generally, there IS no Board of Directors! Where is the local board of diresctors we were promised by September (only 2 days to go Mr Osborne!)?? What is the head of recruitment doing? Still no replacement for Liam Davis or Josh Gowling. Where are the regular updates for us hardcore supporters on the OS? It's all such a terrible mess isn't it?

[merse btpir]

Where is the local board of diresctors we were promised by September (only 2 days to go Mr Osborne!)?? What is the head of recruitment doing? Still no replacement for Liam Davis or Josh Gowling. Where are the regular updates for us hardcore supporters on the OS? It's all such a terrible mess isn't it?

I'll answer some of that........in the visiting directors seating yesterday was Geoff Harrop, Thea Bristow, and her ever present driver John Pilgrim plus Mel Hayman. No interest once again from the owner or his financial man Chris Rich.

The Head of Recruitment was not there as opposed to Saturday when he was in the technical area; so let's assume he was at Chester watching them in his other role as 'opponent scout' . Goalkeeping Coach Kenny Griffiths ~ who plays for Buckland Athletic on Saturdays ~ was in the technical area yesterday alongside Robbie Herrera, Josh Gowling, Gareth Laws and Russell Cleave.

[arrywithanh]

Probably to do with the location, running of the club, position of the club, lack of wages...

Agreed