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Here's another K'wanker (as the spokesman for the Official Supporters Club calls us) making good, pro-active and constructive comment and someone immediately coming back all negative putting 'lack of toilets' up as an excuse.........

The inherent negativity and slothe of the area coming into play once again; what a sorry excuse for enthusiasm and no wonder the place is like a morgue.

Haver you noticed how the TUOSC has had absolutely nothing to offer since the season ended?
Has anything enterprising been put forward to even attract people to the facilities between now and the beginning of the Pre-season friendlies?
Has any attempt been made to market new kit for next season?

I tell you what; let's open the place up for folk to come in and watch the grass grow through the summer!
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brucie wrote: 21 May 2017, 21:21 Did Exeter win? Really who cares? The game is basically a farce with convoluted rules that no one basically has a clue what goes on from one play to the next........

I mean really. Who cares?
:lol: Well I understand the rules Brucie.

It is though easy to understand how you do not grasp it as you don't like rugby, have only ever watched 2 minutes of club rugby, and probably didn't concentrate much during those 2 minutes.

Who cares? Well it would actually be nice if as many cared about TUFC. Whist Sandy Park is a sell out or very close to the 12600 capacity every home game, Plainmoor struggles to fill over 25% of the 6500 capacity. The semi-final on Saturday could have sold out 3 times over if there was the capacity and the final next week is an 80000 sell out. Who cares? Well not you obviously, but the answer is lots.

Hector got it spot on in his earlier post. As for merse btpr, whilst I have a great deal of support for many of his views, he doesn't like rugby because he was called by his surname (public school like) whilst training at Newton Abbot All Whites as a youngster, and he suspects (probably incorrectly) that none of the 'Ruperts' heading off to watch Saracens are socialists!

As a skier I also enjoy watching the Winter Olympics and the annual World Cup, but I fully appreciate that not everybody is in to it. I would not slag off Backgammon and Crib because I don't understand it. Live and let live and each to their own..... ;-)
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stefano wrote: 22 May 2017, 07:49 As for merse btpr, whilst I have a great deal of support for many of his views, he doesn't like rugby because he was called by his surname (public school like) whilst training at Newton Abbot All Whites as a youngster, and he suspects (probably incorrectly) that none of the 'Ruperts' heading off to watch Saracens are socialists!
Oh I realise there'll be plenty of Socialists amongst them; bloody Blairite effing 'Socialists'! :@

My Head of PE at Newton Abbot Grammar School (Geoff Edmundson) tried all he could to get me to go along to Exeter Rugby Club and enter their development system and even 'fixed' me a bursary funded place to transfer to QES Crediton ~ a public school ~ on the back of my ability at rugby; and whilst I was good at playing it, Rugby Union never 'grabbed me' as raggy arsed football did. After all you never saw ad hoc twenty-a-side games springing up on Osborne (there's a name!) Park did you Steve? and no you didn't get anyone bellowing at you using just your surname as referral at any of the football clubs I played for!

I stubbornly declined that chance to go to Crediton, wear a black & amber striped blazer and live in dorms much to the frustration and disappointment of my mother; stayed at NAGS and left there at the first opportunity once GCSEs were done!

Geoff was a good guy; captained Lancashire at county rugby, captained Exeter and played a huge part in their development until the day he died last year and what they have achieved there is because of people like him laying the foundations.......good luck to them!
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merse btpir wrote: 22 May 2017, 07:38
Has any attempt been made to market new kit for next season?

I tell you what; let's open the place up for folk to come in and watch the grass grow through the summer!
Release date for Exeter Chiefs 2017/2018 kit is 12 July.

Lot going on at Sandy Park during the summer including the Mitsibushi 7's, a beer festival, regular comedian nights, and regular band nights.

Went to the beer festival last year....packed....income to the rugby club....effort=results ;-)
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merse btpir wrote: 22 May 2017, 07:57 Oh I realise there'll be plenty of Socialists amongst them; bloody Blairite effing 'Socialists'! :@
Now then.... blood pressure! ;-)
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merse btpir wrote: 22 May 2017, 07:38Here's another K'wanker (as the spokesman for the Official Supporters Club calls us) making good, pro-active and constructive comment and someone immediately coming back all negative putting 'lack of toilets' up as an excuse......
If you're referring to my post, either you're taking it the wrong way or I didn't adequately express myself in trying to point out what should be obvious. So let me put it this way: the more booze people drink (and, to a lesser extent, the more they eat) the more they're going to need a toilet afterwards. Hope that makes it more clear. But how anyone can regard this as negative is beyond me. :-/
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merse btpir wrote: 22 May 2017, 07:57 even 'fixed' me a bursary funded place to transfer to QES Crediton ~ a public school ~
My brother attended QES in Crediton and I can assure you it isn't a public school. Yes they used to wear ridiculous striped blazers but it is a state run comprehensive.
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"the more booze people drink the more they're going to need a toilet"
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Jerry wrote: 22 May 2017, 08:51 My brother attended QES in Crediton and I can assure you it isn't a public school. Yes they used to wear ridiculous striped blazers but it is a state run comprehensive.
Maybe it is now and maybe I am confusing the bursary on offer for boarding with 'Public School' ~ my mistake ~ but in the mid sixties (which is when I was taking about) QES was a Grammar School which provided boarding. A ridiculous notion that rugby ability should be a decisive factor but then, I was at a Grammar School anyway and so maybe not so ridiculous.

Reading up on the school tells me that in 1973 it merged with The Shelley Secondary Modern School. It now forms the Western Road campus (the upper school) of the Queen Elizabeth's School, which is now a state run academy, with some boarding students.
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It's also worth noting that the Developing Player Programme (DPP) has been developing young rugby players in Devon since 2002, working in conjunction with Exeter Chiefs and Devon Schools. They are proud to have a number of their products now playing professional rugby with many more performing well and enjoying rugby at all levels of the rugby pyramid.

The core DPP squads train at Sandy Park. The wider regional programme has training at the DPP centres in North, East, West and South Devon. Players in the regional programme attend training at Sandy Park regularly so their progress can be assessed by the DPP coaching and management staff. DPP coaches works with up to 600 players each year through their DPP regional and Sandy Park programme. The curriculum is skills based to improve the individual player and is not about developing a team. In addition players can receive positional skills training with coaches from Exeter Chiefs.

DPP works closely with Devon Schools and their players can ,if selected, represent the Devon Schools County teams at U15 and U16 playing other Counties. In addition they can represent the Exeter Chiefs Academy at U14 – U16 playing against other Academies and DPP’s.

Exeter Chiefs position within the game is more akin to the franchising an American Football Club and to a lesser extent Soccer clubs in the USA obtain in contrast to the historic and generic rise of clubs such as Plymouth Argyle, Exeter City and Torquay United and therefore the Chiefs are the professional club of the far South West peninsula more than just the rugby club of Exeter.
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Can't argue that Eastleighs gates have improved dramatically this season. That's certainly not bad going considering they are completely crap and managed to finish a whole four points above us.
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If clubs at this level concentrate on the product and spectator experience; 'crap' football doesn't come into it...........

As Dave says; going to Eastleigh and being treated as someone important is far better than going to Southampton, being taken for granted and charged far more for it.

Torquay United have far more to 'offer' (if only they would recognise that fact) on the spectator inclusion aspect than on the football side ~ if only someone there had the brains to realise that.
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brucie wrote: 22 May 2017, 10:39 Can't argue that Eastleighs gates have improved dramatically this season. That's certainly not bad going considering they are completely crap and managed to finish a whole four points above us.
They pulled their budget in once it was apparent they were not going to make the play-offs and don't worry, your point isn't lost on me as I've used it myself in conversation with locals around here BUT don't for one minute think the gap between the clubs is a couple of draws instead of wins for them. They're a clever proactive club and I wish I could tell fans of theirs that they need to follow the lead of the club I've loved for nearly 50 years, unfortunately that would get me laughed out of the room. Two of my grandchildren have been asked along there out of the blue :@ :@ :@ with no previous connection to them other than myself and that kind of thing impresses parents. They're invited to a series of trials through the summer with offers of free tickets to matchdays and as mentioned previously and more importantly, there's a voucher for children accompanied by adults to a meal of burger & chips in the clubhouse where the adults will most likely buy a drink and something to eat too. It's not rocket science...................unless you're a stubborn yokel who refuses to move with the times. Previous board members, not you, Terry ;-)
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Southampton Gull wrote: 22 May 2017, 13:08 .....offers of free tickets to matchdays and as mentioned previously and more importantly, there's a voucher for children accompanied by adults to a meal of burger & chips in the clubhouse where the adults will most likely buy a drink and something to eat too. It's not rocket science
The thing that gets me is that Gaming International have experience of providing such incentives for patrons of their dog tracks at Poole and Swindon:
http://www.stadiauk.com/poole.php
so why ~ after six months of ownership ~ is nothing so proactive in evidence at Plainmoor?
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merse btpir wrote: 22 May 2017, 13:49 The thing that gets me is that Gaming International have experience of providing such incentives for patrons of their dog tracks at Poole and Swindon:
http://www.stadiauk.com/poole.php
so why ~ after six months of ownership ~ is nothing so proactive in evidence at Plainmoor?
think we know (why) the answer to that Merse.
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