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The standard of football this season has been appalling. We have never really dominated games, have created few scoring chances, have looked weak in many areas and have failed to address problems as the season has progressed. Just where do we go from here??

WainwrightGull wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 11:34 I disagree as after some of the lucky wins and we all know there have been many fortunate ones. There is always something to mull over with this bunch of losers.

That's irrelevant.
A win is a win....
When GJ says we we're "unlucky" to lose, that doesn't seem to count either.

I don't think it matters one jot what Gary Johnson says, GJ knows he isn't getting fired, so will do what hell he likes. At any football club where a manager had lost the trust of the majority of its fanbase, would be a reason on it's own for a club to take a business decision, and replace the manager .

Continued poor recruitment would be enough to see the likes of Buckland Athletic replace their manager, let alone any professional football club, we've had 3 seasons of utter shite recruitment, that would be a stand alone reason to make a change.

Continued poor performances would be another stand alone reason for any club to change the manager, we are seeing one no show after another here at TUFC.

There is 3 stand alone reasons why any club would make a change, Gary Johnson is ticking the check box on all 3 , but here at TUFC, no worries, you can can collect your monthly pay check for not even coming close to meeting the expectations that are a minimum requirement for the job your paid to do.

Gary Johnson should NOT remain at this football for another day end of story. His continued employment will cost this club a lot more than replacing him will.

SuperNickyWroe wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 12:03 That's irrelevant.
A win is a win....
When GJ says we we're "unlucky" to lose, that doesn't seem to count either.

A win is a win , but as our manager states this is an entertainment business. Not sure about you but I would like to be entertained and we have had little entertainment for over 18 months.
If you get your kicks out of beating part time outfits then enjoy it by all means.

Dave wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 12:23 I don't think it matters one jot what Gary Johnson says, GJ knows he isn't getting fired, so will do what hell he likes. At any football club where a manager had lost the trust of the majority of its fanbase, would be a reason on it's own for a club to take a business decision, and replace the manager .

Continued poor recruitment would be enough to see the likes of Buckland Athletic replace their manager, let alone any professional football club, we've had 3 seasons of utter shite recruitment, that would be a stand alone reason to make a change.

Continued poor performances would be another stand alone reason for any club to change the manager, we are seeing one no show after another here at TUFC.

There is 3 stand alone reasons why any club would make a change, Gary Johnson is ticking the check box on all 3 , but here at TUFC, no worries, you can can collect your monthly pay check for not even coming close to meeting the expectations that are a minimum requirement for the job your paid to do.

Gary Johnson should NOT remain at this football for another day end of story. His continued employment will cost this club a lot more than replacing him will.

100% spot on

Wolborough wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 11:49 The standard of football this season has been appalling. We have never really dominated games, have created few scoring chances, have looked weak in many areas and have failed to address problems as the season has progressed. Just where do we go from here??

A fair reflection of our season. Where do we go from here?. Looking at the table if we can get our act together we can still climb this table. "How we get there I don't know. How we get there I don't care. All I know is Torquay's on their way"

Skillsy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 12:39 Not sure what you're on about, saying I didn't stick with a prediction (probably related to the Eastbourne game). I have deleted nothing.

What I do notice is that every single comment you make is negative........it sounds like you get pleasure every time we put up a poor performance and lose. There is no doubt we have been poor all season but these are the times when we should all stick together. It's easy to be a loyal supporter when a team is winning, not so easy when losing.

Early forecast for next Saturday............Torquay 4 Dover 0.

I take no pleasure in watching the dross I have this season, or the one before that

As a ST holder (now in my 15 consecutive year of having one) Ive seen all bar one home game - and I'll be there at home vs dover

I'm happy to say it how it is without the rose tinted happy clapper glasses on

Even games we've won this season we haven't played well, recruitment diabolical and performances poor

We are only going backwards under GJ and Downes

A couple of points.

It would be interesting to know how many inadequate players and crocks Torquay United has signed over the past three seasons. I know he won't be given his P45, but it merely emphasises what an utterly useless 'scout'-and I use the term advisedly - Peter Johnson is. A prime case of nepotism.

Secondly, my son has heard a rumour that the club can't sack Gary Johnson as he, apparently, worked unpaid for some months due to the financial position. The tom tom drums have it that there is now a clause in Johnson's contract that he can't be dismissed.

If Eastbourne was a bad day at the office , yesterday saw a group of unconnected players just not turning up, first half we were constantly arguing amongst ourselves about who did what or more usually who did not do what, we were a total shambles, as someone said in their match report on the TUFC Harris has the makings of a good player but he has been buggered not literally by johnson, whose bright idea was it to bring on martin as a forward wingback,midfielder/forward, he kept getting in harris's way and does not know how to make a forward run, you cannot blame him its not his game, the introduction of hall was a masterpiece of stupidity, compunded by asking him to play centre forward, he never ran once, he cannot run ,his legs have gone and foyo for all his failings has some pace, when the youngster was subbed he walked past us you could tell by his head shaking and body language he was questioning his choice of career, piece of advice lad, get your club to recall you before johnson totally ruins you too.
I am already wondering what Johnsons post match excuses will be if we do not get a result against Dover.

Torquay have a game or two in hand over most teams in the league. Winning or drawing one of those will be enough to jump back into the playoff places.

It's not about entertainment. If you want entertainment go and watch clowns

Well, well, well.
Just as well Hereford did not have their two main strikers available as the score would have been very embarrassing.

I did warn that Hereford were no mugs, interestingly Hereford fans in the pub were concerned that they would not score, a 0-0 prediction was going around. I did point out that we always give away a goal in any game.

I have been considering if this was the worst performance I have seen since I started following United in October 1966, a defeat away at Peterborough comes to mind, even the dreaded 6-0 Boxing Day defeat at you know where, perhaps in time I will forget some of the following: lack of basic skill beyond a simple error, the blaming of others, lack of team ethos, how easily heads dropped, ……….

Perhaps my comments as a follower, rather than regular supporter these days may be hard but that performance was unacceptable.
How Mark Halstead sleeps at night knowing 1 error behind that midfield (and defence) and we are in trouble. Dean Moxey probably can not believe what he is seeing at times from a professional outfit. Ross Marshall, although a committed player is not a right back, Hereford exploited that together with the lack of support in front of him, disallowed goal - we would be thinking wtf if that had been us. Midfield, lightweight and no ability to pick up the scraps, Hereford must have won over 75% of balls coming off defensive headers. Archie Harris came to us to learn, well I hope he learns fast as he had a covering defender and goalkeeper for the penalty he gave away. Yes he was well beaten but do not make it worse by giving it away, goals are generally as a result of two errors not one.

Sorry to go on but I am not happy, my concern is that I will get more sympathy from my Hereford supporting acquaintances than the usual banter!

GULL 67 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 18:35 It's not about entertainment. If you want entertainment go and watch clowns

We are every time we turn up at Plainmoor.

Hereford Gull66 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 19:07
How Mark Halstead sleeps at night knowing 1 error behind that midfield (and defence) and we are in trouble.

He sleeps well, I think. He just does his job as well as he can. And the problems in defense and midfield are not his problems, but the head coach's, I think.