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alitufc wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 10:33 My understanding is that to hand out leaflets on the street TUST needs permission from the council. This is being checked out.

Yorkieandy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 10:18 I can't see how they can enforce a ban on handing out leaflets in streets away from Plainmoor but i'm not a legal expert so wouldn't know. Be a bit odd though. I mean they own the football club but not the streets surrounding. Interesting point though and I think there are many ways around this.

Plainmoor78 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 10:36 No they don't control the streets, but you would have to be very careful as to the content of the leaflet. The club would only have to hint at liable meaning the onus would be on TUST to prove their allegations in a court of law. Remember Nick Bye and the covenant on tor abbey. Bye told the Cary trust he could afford to drag them through the courts for long enough for them to run out of money before he did. Clark Osbourne no doubt has that financial clout.

westyorkshiregull wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 11:47 Not sure on that leaflet thing says you have to contact the council. Don't think unless your selling products you would have to pay

Matt Gorman wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 09:40 *FAO Dave / Southamption Gull*

Morning Dave

I have just sent you (or thought I had anyway!) a private e-mail..I just wanted to make sure you have received it as it is not showing in my sent messages

Thanks

Matt Gorman

alitufc wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 10:02 Thank you westyorkshiregull, we do appreciate your membership. I see Matt has emailed Dave/Southampton Gull regarding his concerns. I could spend all day putting forward my personal views in response to comments such as we are incompetent. I would love for the TUST to be visible all over the ground and handing out leaflets. There is simply not enough people who are willing to commit their time. I am hoping this is changing. I personally cannot get to the game till well after 2pm. Aargh it is so frustrating. Thank you once again for your membership. Ali Bryant.

Plainmoor78 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 10:15 If TUST wanted to hand out leaflets in the ground or campaign they would need the clubs permission and I doubt that would be forthcoming. Also handing out leaflets near the ground might lead to legal action by the club.

Soupdragon wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 11:38 Yes, you need a permit to hand out leaflets on the street (TUST isn't a registered charity or a registered political organisation); it's about £220 for six people (can't have more than six). Took me one minute to find out that.

The area gets the club it deserves, yes, but the club also gets the support it deserves. What has TUFC done for the local community lately (discounting FITC)? At least Nicho had the players turning up at the kids' ward at the hospital. These days, what links are there - non-football-related - to the community? A business networking breakfast club. I can't think of anything else. Time was, there were all sorts of community and external things going on. Heck, I even went to a TUFC-themed day of racing at Newton Abbot in years gone past.

And as for the TUST, I'm rapidly losing confidence in their ability to achieve anything. We are told that there are 'regular meetings' between our trust and the club, but - to my knowledge - we have never been told anything about them. I appreciate there may be commercial confidentiality issues, but date and length of meeting, who attended, broad brush strokes of items discussed, something - ANYTHING - that has been agreed to take forward.

I made the suggestion ages ago that their website should be kept up to date with information for members. On 8 September 2016, I emailed TUST the following:

I think it would be useful to keep an archive of all the emails and newsletters e-mailed to members by the Trust (apart from only administrative emails, of course).
Might it also be a nice idea if there was a part of the site members could contribute to, by - say - uploading pics of themselves in their TUFC shirts at matches, at away games, at national and overseas landmarks ... that sort of thing. Maybe even include a world map showing where members are around the world?
However, I think the main thing has to be to demonstrate that the Trust is an active and vibrant organisation so perhaps you should consider a blog that can be updated at least two or three times a week by committee members. It needn't be too onerous: aided by a glass (or two), I'm sure the committee could come up with at least 20 different idea for postings, and could also get guest postings from team members about particular games or training regimes or suchlike.
I'd be wary of getting club directors to submit guest postings unless they avoid the sort of drivel fed to the Herald. You all know better than me the mess the club is in, so I imagine you would want to steer clear of appearing to be just a conduit for the same-old, same-old whitewash and/or collection tin rattling.

I can't be the only one who's made a similar suggestion; I'm not that special. But, nearly a year and a half later, nada. Yet it's such a simple and cheap thing to do.

We are also told that 'a letter' has been sent to Clarke Osborne. As a member - this letter was after all, sent on my, and your, behalf - I asked for a copy. I was told that I couldn't have one, that it would be "unfair" to Mr Osborne. But how can I - or anyone - consider his response if we are not aware of what, and precisely how, the questions have been asked?

There is simply no point in having a trust - especially at a time like this when the very existence of our club is truly in jeopardy - unless those who lead it are properly up for the fight. Are they?

westyorkshiregull wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 12:01 Unless we start our own religion

Plainmoor78 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2018, 11:56 In the Torbay council website it says charities, political parties and religious groups are exempt from seeking permission, everyone else needs a license.