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Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 10:10
by Dave
Fletch wrote:
Best you watch the reply of the 3rd Nick. Bevs came out and narrowed the angle like keepers are taught to do, making it tight eough that it only went in off the post. Ellis got caught out by Midson getting in behind him.
I argee only with part of what your saying here Fletch,i have not seen the replay yet,however if my memory serves me right,Bevan came out ,then stopped and then came again,now that is something that no goalkeeper is taught to do.
if a goalkeeper makes the decision to come out narrow the angle and make himself big then he must follow it through,and not stop half way out,in my opinion if Bevs had not stopped he would have got there and made the block,yep midson may well have still scored,and yep the back four let midson in,however i think bevs will know he could have done better with that one.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 10:24
by Fonda
I imagine their 'interest' such that it is, diminished after that yesterday. 1 up-front at home? Unecessarily cautious. What a surprise that the moment we changed to 4-4-2, we gained the initiative. And then, having taken control of the game, and looking most likely to win it, we replace our most creative player with basically another centre-half and relinquish control again. Not his greatest day i reckon. As i said to Dave (Forever) yesterday, i'd personally be more disappointed to lose Benners than Bucks. Controversial?
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 10:37
by Fletch
Fonda wrote:I imagine their 'interest' such that it is, diminished after that yesterday. 1 up-front at home? Unecessarily cautious. What a surprise that the moment we changed to 4-4-2, we gained the initiative. And then, having taken control of the game, and looking most likely to win it, we replace our most creative player with basically another centre-half and relinquish control again. Not his greatest day i reckon. As i said to Dave (Forever) yesterday, i'd personally be more disappointed to lose Benners than Bucks. Controversial?
Controversial? Possibly? possibly not? Depends on opinion really
So just as a matter of interest, who would you play in CM if we played 4-4-2? Would you drop Wroe to play O'Kane? Dont say play them both, because I dont think either of them is a good enough ball winner to break up the opposition midfield play in the way that Manse does/Greavsie used to...
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 10:44
by Fonda
I would, yes. Wroe went through a period of looking like his old self, but it was all too brief judging by yesterday and in terms of creative influence, Eunan knocks him into a cocked hat. Personally, i'd have Manse back in midfield alongside O'Kane, with Robbo back at RB. Certainly at home, where the onus should be on us to win the game.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 11:17
by Plymouth Gull
forevertufc wrote:
I argee only with part of what your saying here Fletch,i have not seen the replay yet,however if my memory serves me right,Bevan came out ,then stopped and then came again,now that is something that no goalkeeper is taught to do.
if a goalkeeper makes the decision to come out narrow the angle and make himself big then he must follow it through,and not stop half way out,in my opinion if Bevs had not stopped he would have got there and made the block,yep midson may well have still scored,and yep the back four let midson in,however i think bevs will know he could have done better with that one.
Got to agree with Dave here, Fletch. The tiniest bit of doubt crept in as Bevs hesitated, which proved costly.
The sarcastic cheers when he caught the ball after that were extremely unneccessary, though. I don't know whether he heard them or not, but if he did then that's reallly going to help is confidence, which already seems shattered a fair bit.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 12:59
by Fletch
Fonda wrote:I would, yes. Wroe went through a period of looking like his old self, but it was all too brief judging by yesterday and in terms of creative influence, Eunan knocks him into a cocked hat. Personally, i'd have Manse back in midfield alongside O'Kane, with Robbo back at RB. Certainly at home, where the onus should be on us to win the game.
Totally agree with you (although I thought Wroe played quite well yesterday). The last time I suggested Wroe should be replaced I was roundly lambasted by pretty much everyone (not that I worry about that
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I still think 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 would suit us better though with Manse/EoK/Oastler or Wroe in CM...
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 13:23
by Fonda
It can prove effective at times, but the obvious problem with that, as evidenced yesterday, is that the lack of width can cause a problem.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 13:26
by Yellow4life
I see Charlton have just sacked their manager- buckle to athletic anyone? He's being linked to every other low leagues job!
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 13:28
by RussianGull
Charlton is a club I can see Buckle at, anyway I reckon he'll be with us until the end of the season.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 15:24
by Richinns
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 336899.stm
No official approach as yet but that is the biggest "come and get me" statement in history from Buckle!
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 16:29
by ChineseGull
Surely if he is so 'ambitious', he would stay here and get us promoted. I wont deny that it's a step up, but I don't think Bristol Rovers is enough of a step up to leave us yet.
On the other hand, if we're on the verge of selling our star players, who he has signed and helped get to where they are, then who could blame him for wanting to go to a bigger club?
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 17:09
by royalgull
I doubt Bucks will be a big enough 'name' for Charlton.
Stay here and get us promoted, with our budget I'd say that's going to be a real tough ask. Not impossible because teams have done it before and we are competitive in this league now but to be honest you want to be making reinforcements now. The likelihood is we're going to lose Benyon minimum. If Buckle goes I imagine he'd want Benyon and Ellis possibly O'Kane if his new club could afford them, as well as taking Shaun North, Kenny and Damian. Losing Buckle now would be a disaster for us. There is no one out there available that we could afford that we could bring in to manage these players better. Especially when that new manager won't get any major resources to bring new players in.
Bucks goes, the wheels will come off. It's a good job we've had an excellent start to the season overall because there's no realistic danger of us going down.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 20:24
by Dave
34 mins Bristol Rovers 2 Plymouth 0 ,wonder if the Rovers players heard that Bucks was coming ,so though they best get there fingers out a win a game,guess Paterson could get the job after all.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 21:20
by Plymouth Gull
forevertufc wrote:34 mins Bristol Rovers 2 Plymouth 0 ,wonder if the Rovers players heard that Bucks was coming ,so though they best get there fingers out a win a game,guess Paterson could get the job after all.
Bottled it. 2-2 now. Spirited comeback from Argyle, it seems.
Re: Rovers in for Buckle?
Posted: 04 Jan 2011, 21:27
by Dutchgull
Even more spirit its now 2-3 Gargs !!