Torquay United v Southend United - 14/12/13

Mav · Post by **Mav** » 12 Dec 2013, 17:31

nickbrod wrote:Forget Stockley, he's out injured and gone back to Bournemouth for treatment. Just one thing after another

You make your own luck, and you create your own problems. Perhaps if the training was geared towards confidence rather than thrashing the players, these kinds of injuries wouldn't happen

SIDGULL · Post by **SIDGULL** » 12 Dec 2013, 18:05

Mav, were you at the training session when he picked up the injury? Do you know exactly what the players were doing at the time? Do you know precisely how the injury occurred? Did you see it happen?
My own response to these questions would be "No" and i would therefore not be able to draw the conclusion that you have.
If you were there then i bow to your greater knowledge, if not how have you reached your conclusion? Players pick up knocks all the time in training and on match days. It happens.

Mav · Post by **Mav** » 12 Dec 2013, 18:27

It's not a knock, it's calf muscle injury. An injury which occurred whilst running.

Post by **Dave** » 12 Dec 2013, 18:49

Mav has made a good point, just have to look at the number of injuries we've had and the nature of them, I suggested a few weeks ago the team might be over training, at this stage of the season the players should be fit.

nickfrench82 · Post by **nickfrench82** » 12 Dec 2013, 19:16

forevertufc wrote:Mav has made a good point, just have to look at the number of injuries we've had and the nature of them, I suggested a few weeks ago the team might be over training, at this stage of the season the players should be fit.

Assuming the nature of our training has contributed to the injuries we have suffered in that respect, then maybe it explains why the players can run and run, yet tactically and technically, they seem to have no clue what to do in a match situation.

PlainmoorRoar · Post by **PlainmoorRoar** » 12 Dec 2013, 19:30

Mav wrote:It's not a knock, it's calf muscle injury. An injury which occurred whilst running.

Whilst running!?

That's disgraceful what the hell is a footballer running for!

Knills got to go now!

Rjc70 · Post by **Rjc70** » 12 Dec 2013, 19:40

Here's my thoughts:-

...................Poke................
.O'Connor Pearce Downes Cruise..
............Mozika..McCourt.........
Chapell.........Craig..........Bodin
.................Marquis...............

Subs: Rice, Tonge, Benyon and four others.

ROADRUNNER · Post by **ROADRUNNER** » 13 Dec 2013, 07:13

the guy has a calf injury for christ sake, it happens, get over it! he will be back next week it is just a tweak.

Post by **Dave** » 13 Dec 2013, 09:14

Get over it! You sound like the only Knill supporter in the village..

Yes players can run, yes they get injured none of that a problem for me. What is concerning, is how many muscle tears, strains pulls and tweaks have we had so far this season, and the Christmas turkeys are still breathing fresh air, blissfully unaware of their impending fate.

At this relatively early stage of the season, far to many, that's how many, that isn't meant as criticism against Knill, however something to me isn't working right on the training ground, alarm bells should be ringing and questions being asked as to why.

Behind-the-Gulls · Post by **Behind-the-Gulls** » 13 Dec 2013, 09:26

Our players are the "fittest in league two" according to our Royal Marines fitness coach .

Dave_Pougher · Post by **Dave_Pougher** » 13 Dec 2013, 09:29

Alarm bells are deafening some it seems.

AustrianAndyGull · Post by **AustrianAndyGull** » 13 Dec 2013, 11:14

Behind-the-Gulls wrote:Our players are the "fittest in league two" according to our Royal Marines fitness coach .

No, I think you must have misheard him BHG.

:~D

He clearly said something similar.

Post by **Scott Brehaut** » 13 Dec 2013, 12:22

Behind-the-Gulls wrote:Our players are the "fittest in league two" according to our Royal Marines fitness coach .

You mean the Royal Marines fitness coach who just happened to be homosexual....

PS - I'll put in the Austrian Andy disclaimer that the above is a joke, that I have no clue as to the sexual orientation of said Royal Marine and couldn't give two tosses if he was gay or not.

wivelgull · Post by **wivelgull** » 13 Dec 2013, 14:52

If it's a stinker tomorrow then it will mark the end of the (fairly) well-suppressed patience of the fans. A draw would give Mr. Knill a little breathing space (it looks like Brass is off) but that's all. As I forecast earlier in the season, we WILL be relegated; there will be the occasional win and the odd draw, but the die is cast. Very soon, and I mean VERY soon, it will be too late. When this disaster of a season is over we will be able to look back and say 'if only things had changed before the Southend (or Rovers or Exeter) match then we MIGHT have escaped'. Of course, you're not aware at the time when the Rubicon has been crossed - but it could be tomorrow.
Like brucie, I was going to go, but I have changed my mind. It's pouring down with rain, it's grey, it's gloomy and, as far as TUFC is concerned, it's hopeless.
A note on Boxing Day. If you look back through the TUFC stats you'll be aware that the Boxing Day attendance was always good. It won't be this year: why? Not so much that the abject performances of the team have put people off (which they have) but the ruinous police policy of demanding that these local games be all-ticket. It never works (unless it's TUFC versus Spurs) and the attendances are always worse than they should be. I should imagine that a lot of people on Boxing Day might think 'Oh, Christmas is over, I feel like a change, let's go up to the match' And then the realisation occurs 'Oh, I just can't wander up at my own good time and of my own free will, I have to book beforehand, and it's too late now'.
A further note: we are bottom of the entire Football League, a position we have been in many times before.

ROADRUNNER · Post by **ROADRUNNER** » 13 Dec 2013, 17:42

i didnt say i was supporting knill, what i said forever was that stockley has a calf injury, that means does it that knill is thrashing the players because we have had so many injuries it must be his fault, downes fell over a pothole, harding injured his foot during a match. pierce has a blood disorder, why does this mean that the training must be too hard for the poor lambs. its bollocks. its just an injury. and if it helps im sure knill will be gone this time next week.

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