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SBP wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 12:14 I don't understand why it is said that we need a big strong striker. Many of the young u6 up to u13 players(if they are at a switched on club) are taught to play a passing game from the keeper, learning how to pass and move and create spaces. Opposition teams have to retreat to the halfway line in the young age groups upto u10(I think). This develops a players passing ability, movement etc etc.
So most of todays players have hopefully come through this kind of coaching so they are generally familiar with this. So why then is there a need to launch a ball at a lone striker?? We have seen it time and time again and it brings little reward.

SBP wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 12:14 From what I can see under Nico he likes to play very direct most of the time, so does that mean he doesn't think we can play out from the back?? Does he not trust our midfield to pass?? It doesn't seem like it. Under Ling the first option was can Bobby O distribute the ball to feet to a full back or wide player safely and quickly. This was a directive from the coaching staff. It was very effective and we did extremely well from it.

SBP wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 12:14 I don't understand why it is said that we need a big strong striker. Many of the young u6 up to u13 players(if they are at a switched on club) are taught to play a passing game from the keeper, learning how to pass and move and create spaces. Opposition teams have to retreat to the halfway line in the young age groups upto u10(I think). This develops a players passing ability, movement etc etc.
So most of todays players have hopefully come through this kind of coaching so they are generally familiar with this. So why then is there a need to launch a ball at a lone striker?? We have seen it time and time again and it brings little reward.
Remember Karl Hawley, yes I know he cost us a fortune and wasn't great however look at how he was used. We use to launch the ball at him at 100mph at head or chest height, ineffective and what's he suppose to do. Rene Howe, exactly the same, Rene was obviously are better footballer but he played that lone role on many occasions, even at home which use to drive me mad.
Over the last few seasons we don't seem to have a game plan or any idea of how we should be playing. Players are lost and seem clueless to what to do or how to play. I think Sam Chaney is a good example of that. He has talent, but is he played in a role that is beneficial to him and the team??
From what I can see under Nico he likes to play very direct most of the time, so does that mean he doesn't think we can play out from the back?? Does he not trust our midfield to pass?? It doesn't seem like it.
Under Ling the first option was can Bobby O distribute the ball to feet to a full back or wide player safely and quickly. This was a directive from the coaching staff. It was very effective and we did extremely well from it.

With the players Nicho had at the back last season how could you play out from the back. Both fullbacks struggled confidence was low and you seen that the ball was like a hot potato.

merse btpir wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 12:38 Hallelujah; at last recognition from the footballing backwater that is Torquay that the club has had a succession of past their sell by 'managers' (ever since the loss of Martin Ling) playing antediluvian football and appointed by buffoons with not a clue as to what coaching expertise there actually is out there, the methods they use or the manner in which the development game is constituted these days.

Knill, Hargreaves, Cox and Nicholson have been dreadful in their manner of playing the game ~ it's as if they have learned nothing since their playing days!
When Brendan Moore first arrived his distribution was mainly by hand; accurate, fast and to players in space. By the time last season had commenced all that had gone by the board and he was gifting the ball back to the opposition with pointless kicking...who was responsible for that?

Sean McGinty has been a million pound footballer but look how he begins almost every game.....gifting a long hoick back to the opposition either straight to them or by way of a throw in because he has hoofed the ball into touch. Pathetic!

Nicholson and Herrera haven't got a bloody clue!

threelittlepiglets wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 15:30 Had to endure? I think a massive factor is that his wife and kids have substantial lives locally in the bay. its an ideal job, even if he shovels shit from the toilets... at times you have wonder if he is just about 'words', 'words' and oh... more 'words' all just to cling on to that convenient job.

Flipper wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 14:43 And you have a clue because you've played where exactly ?

Flipper wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 14:43 Any sort of passing game is wasted in this league and the teams that do well consistently are the big physical teams.

Flipper wrote: ↑11 Jul 2017, 14:43 And why do you think that McGinty the "million pound footballer" is playing at Torquay. Moore used to throw it because he can't kick it properly and never could do. To pay a sweeping style of football you need the players to do so and on the budget we have you just can't get those players.