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NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:27
by LeroyTUFC2011
It scares me to see Paul Trollope near the Top of the New Managers Poll. I think with Paul it's you either hate him or love him and quite frankly he would take us to the fifth tier of English Football. He is defiantly bad news if you look at his history at clubs. Does anyone agree?

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:28
by Richinns
No

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:29
by monkeyboy
I take it you want Leroy Rosenior?!

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:32
by LeroyTUFC2011
Of course, its the right time for the club to take someone on who really want's to stop the rot, keep hold of our players and get us promotion next season. Leroy offers us the passion to do this and he would sign on the dotted line asap.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:35
by yellowforever
He's got a good record though, you can't take that away from him. Even last season, Rovers weren't doing 'that' badly when he was sacked, and many of the players thought it was way too soon for him to go.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:37
by Fonda
Leroy wants his team to play football - and we have a squad of players set up to do that. Trollope is evidently somewhat more 'direct'. We'd need to build a new squad if PT gets the job. Eunan would be completely wasted under him.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:40
by clemy1989
i agree to the extent that leroy is more suited to the squad available and would work extremely well with eunan, time to say bye bye to stanners robinson tomlin probably oastler and branston i think.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:49
by Yellow4life
'stop the rot'...sounds like we've just been relegated?!

Paul is my first choice.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 12:52
by Southampton Gull
Fonda wrote:Leroy wants his team to play football - and we have a squad of players set up to do that. Trollope is evidently somewhat more 'direct'. We'd need to build a new squad if PT gets the job. Eunan would be completely wasted under him.

No we don't, I'm afraid.

Make no mistake we'll be under the cosh next season. None of the loanees will be here, Eunan will be gone, does that leave us with those you're referring to? We'll be better off being more direct as a team near the lower reaches than one near the bottom playing open flowing football, IMHO.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 13:01
by Burnhamgull
Bristol Rovers were doing fine under Trollope.....................then Lennie Lawrence left.

Living up here, I spend a lot of time browsing both Bristol forums and the Rovers fans were not happy when LL left because suddenly PT was exposed and it showed as they slipped down the table. They brought Dave penny in but he tried to do too much too soon and was released. Finally it was one of their own players that managed the team for the final part of the season.

Employing PT, I fear, could be a huge mistake as he does like to play a direct style. Somebody else has already commented that Eunan would be unemployed if we adopt that brand of football.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 13:04
by brucie
O'Kane won't be here anyway. Rosenior had success with a squad he inherited and basically that was it. His record of signimng players was awful. It isn't going to happen.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 15:01
by GasheadWes
LeroyTUFC2011 wrote:It scares me to see Paul Trollope near the Top of the New Managers Poll. I think with Paul it's you either hate him or love him and quite frankly he would take us to the fifth tier of English Football. He is defiantly bad news if you look at his history at clubs. Does anyone agree?
Sorry mate but you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

Trolls has only had one management job and he has a L2 promotion to his name, a JPT Trophy final appearance and he also led us to the quarter final of the FA Cup.

If that makes you think he will get you relegated then you are sadly mistaken.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 15:20
by CP Gull
GasheadWes wrote: Sorry mate but you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

Trolls has only had one management job and he has a L2 promotion to his name, a JPT Trophy final appearance and he also led us to the quarter final of the FA Cup.

If that makes you think he will get you relegated then you are sadly mistaken.
All true Wes.

I must admit, a bit like most Gasheads it seems, I cant make my own mind up about Paul Trollope!

On the one hand he is seen as a progressive young Manager and a very good coach, who achieved promotion from L2, followed up by two top ten finishes in L1 and was then unluckily sacked after just 19 games (only 8 of those at home mind) when they found themselves in the bottom four (but only on goal difference) - a position from which they never recovered.

Whilst on the other hand he is also seen by many to have been unable to cope once Lennie Lawrence moved on and the football he promoted appears to be rather dour/negative? There are also question marks I believe about his man management?

Personally given the names of some of the candidates put forward so far I wouldn't be disappointed if PT was given the job - perhaps he may even be allowed to bring Stuart Campbell (caretaker Manager once Dave Penney was sacked) with him as well? I also think that he could prove to be a good quick fix appointment in that surely there must be a reasonable chance that he would bring at least some of the 17 (?) players released by BRFC with him - some of whom are established L1 players and could surely do a job for us.

If PT was successful it would certainly add some spice (not that it would be needed now anyway) to the two fixtures between the two clubs next season that's for sure!

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 15:22
by Fonda
GasheadWes wrote: Sorry mate but you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

Trolls has only had one management job and he has a L2 promotion to his name, a JPT Trophy final appearance and he also led us to the quarter final of the FA Cup.

If that makes you think he will get you relegated then you are sadly mistaken.
Seriously, if your board reacted 'hastily' in getting rid of him, it was a reaction to something. And from what i've seen elsewhere, that something was that many of the fans didn't rate him. I've yet to see a comment from any Rovers fan regretting that he got the boot.

Re: NO 2 PAUL TROLLOPE

Posted: 30 May 2011, 15:28
by Kit_robin
Fonda wrote:
Seriously, if your board reacted 'hastily' in getting rid of him, it was a reaction to something. And from what i've seen elsewhere, that something was that many of the fans didn't rate him. I've yet to see a comment from any Rovers fan regretting that he got the boot.
A fair point, but lets look at the whole picture and see where he got sacked from: L1 at a club who's board expect them to be challenging for the play-offs, i imagine.

What we're looking at is whether he can do a good job here, and I'm not sure that Trollope being sacked by Rovers negated the positives he has in his favour (the previously mentioned promotion and 11th placed L1 finish).