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At the Swindon game, and I think I heard it against Barnet aswell the lads around the drum sang "Come and Join us over here!"

Now this is an agressive chant of course about fighting, one I'm familiar with from away trips with Man Utd. However when Utd fans sing they tend to be hard blokes who you wouldn't want to join anywhere. I disapprove of all football voilence, I used to think it was great, cool and big, untill I got a kicking at Everton by two lads a fews ago, I was 14, probably the same age as most of the guys chanting on Boxing day.

If Swindon fans want to get ejected then thats their lookout, but if our lads sang that against some supporters, especially away, not all fans are league 2 and freindly.

They dont strike me as the kind of lads capable of sticking up for themselves against fully grown men. I don't want to see them learn the hard way that football voilence isnt big.

I was a little disapointed to see a few older lads join in.

One Torquay fan stood below shouted "if your so f****** hard then you go to them" I stand by them most weeks and I get the feeling they aren't making many freinds.

Maybe I'm being a little unfair, but this is how It looks to me.

Its just the way teenagers are. If the opposition fans suddenly ran on the pitch towards them then they would be out of Plainmoor faster than Usain Bolt. Its only because there is no chance of them getting a good pasting that they do it as bravado. Like you say, i've had a few kickings too and when you're that age its what you need sadly to learn that football violence happens at ALL levels. Just let them get on with it as there is nowt you can do about it and just hope they don't get the chance to learn the hard way.

No need to duplicate the same thread. All you're doing is giving the muppets what they crave.