No more loan signings

[hector]

Not they have been any good anyway...but on the other hand do we need one last throw of the dice?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26747036

[gullintwoplaces]

We have become loan signing junkies, time we stopped doing it! Some have been good, some worse than we already have in my view. Azeez was the worst, awful.

[SuperNickyWroe]

does CH actually know what hes talking about??

first he says this in the article....

"Torquay United manager Chris Hargreaves says it is unlikely the club will bring in any more players before Thursday's loan deadline."

then he says this.....

"I'll be trying to get a player in but I couldn't guarantee it."

give me strength.........

[ferrarilover]

does CH actually know what hes talking about??

first he says this in the article....

"Torquay United manager Chris Hargreaves says it is unlikely the club will bring in any more players before Thursday's loan deadline."

then he says this.....

"I'll be trying to get a player in but I couldn't guarantee it."

give me strength.........

"He" says nothing of the sort.

The first paragraph isn't a quote, it's some old shit made up by a BBC hack.

The quote is the second bit, from which the aforementioned hack has incorrectly extrapolated the aforementioned paragraph.

Matt.

[SuperNickyWroe]

"He" says nothing of the sort.

The first paragraph isn't a quote, it's some old sh*t made up by a BBC hack.

The quote is the second bit, from which the aforementioned hack has incorrectly extrapolated the aforementioned paragraph.

Matt.

so when it says "Chris Hargraeves says it is unlikely...."

that means he didnt say it then?

[gullintwoplaces]

To be fair to Hargreaves, we shouldn't judge him by what a journalist says he said. I trust politicians more than journalists, and politicians were born to lie.

[ferrarilover]

The quote is the quote. The opening paragraph is the [il]logical extrapolation by some work experience boy at the BBC offices.

What he actually said is the bit in quotation marks. Anything else is what the author of the piece has chosen to flesh it out with. Allow me to demonstrate:

SNW says that everything on the BBC website is 100% accurate.

When quizzed on his position, the handsome northerner said, "that means he didnt say it then?"

See how easy that was?

Matt.

[SuperNickyWroe]

To be fair to Hargreaves, we shouldn't judge him by what a journalist says he said. I trust politicians more than journalists, and politicians were born to lie.

you have to take into accout how keen CH is to talk to the press.....

[Dave]

To be quite honest is doesn't matter who said what or how they said it. What does matter is we're 6 points behind safety with 7 games to go, that's the bit that is important, the common denominator is a striker, one that can score goals, despite playing poorly and with only 10 men the team created a few chances v Newport, it appears from the commentary they did up at York as well, and certainly created enough chances to win the game at Cheltenham by half time, but scored a big fat 0 goals in all three games.

Footnote; For those who constantly banged on about how the Goodwin sending off cost us the Newport game, Wimbledon played 70 minutes with 10 men away at Northampton and still managed to score twice in a 2.2 draw.

There's still time to save ourselves, granted not a lot now, Stockley to me is just a younger inexperience version of Enoch, keep Enoch he's scares the living crap out of the opposition and although done little wrong if it's a money issue send Stockley back, if Marquis or someone a long those lines is available go and get them, today. We can bang on about the clubs finances all the hell you like, in 3 seasons from now in the conference the club's income will have dropped approx £800,000 this isn't a fantasy figure, how's our clubs finances going to look then.

Come on the board, CH, the club, the clubs fax machine. ONE LAST ROLL OF THE DICE.

[Gullscorer]

The quote is the quote. The opening paragraph is the [il]logical extrapolation by some work experience boy at the BBC offices.
What he actually said is the bit in quotation marks. Anything else is what the author of the piece has chosen to flesh it out with. Allow me to demonstrate:
SNW says that everything on the BBC website is 100% accurate.
When quizzed on his position, the handsome northerner said, "that means he didnt say it then?"
See how easy that was?
Matt.

Handsome...?? =D

[ferrarilover]

Sending Stockley back won't change our finances at all.

I've seen 9 men beat 11 by a score of 5-0, it's irrelevant.

Matt.

[AustrianAndyGull]

To be quite honest is doesn't matter who said what or how they said it. What does matter is we're 6 points behind safety with 7 games to go, that's the bit that is important, the common denominator is a striker, one that can score goals, despite playing poorly and with only 10 men the team created a few chances v Newport, it appears from the commentary they did up at York as well, and certainly created enough chances to win the game at Cheltenham by half time, but scored a big fat 0 goals in all three games.

Footnote; For those who constantly banged on about how the Goodwin sending off cost us the Newport game, Wimbledon played 70 minutes with 10 men away at Northampton and still managed to score twice in a 2.2 draw.

There's still time to save ourselves, granted not a lot now, Stockley to me is just a younger inexperience version of Enoch, keep Enoch he's scares the living crap out of the opposition and although done little wrong if it's a money issue send Stockley back, if Marquis or someone a long those lines is available go and get them, today. We can bang on about the clubs finances all the hell you like, in 3 seasons from now in the conference the club's income will have dropped approx £800,000 this isn't a fantasy figure, how's our clubs finances going to look then.

Come on the board, CH, the club, the clubs fax machine. ONE LAST ROLL OF THE DICE.

Hi Dave. To be fair you are totally correct about the financial losses the club will take a hit on should we drop into the conference and remain there and also I agree if we can send the likes of Stockley back and get new ones in replacement then it's better than nothing. My view however is that one swallow doesn't make a summer just like one goalscorer (should we miraculously be able to find one now) doesn't make us survive. We have catastrophic problems all over the team and the likelihood is that we will concede in most of our remaining games too therefore we need a lot more now than just someone who may score a goal a game.

I hold a slightly different opinion than you about the number and quality of chances we created v Newport and York. I personally felt we created very little in the way of chances a half decent striker could have put away. Maybe 1 great chance per game which if we had a goalscorer who can put those away we still end up drawing both games 1-1.

Sure an extra loanee will give us another option and like I said, send the ones like Stockley back and replace them by all means but like a gambler with an addiction, there is simply no point in throwing good money after bad in the hope we recoup losses and maintain our league status. For that to happen we needed a manager to buy into the fact that it could be done and we needed a core group of players who also needed to buy into it. This hasn't happened and so sign another 3 or 4 if we can, we will still be relegated in a few weeks time.

I suppose I've given up totally now because I still haven't seen any desire from this group of players that they want to get out of this. It's been months now and we've poxed a couple of home games and that's it. We can't score or create enough quality chances to put teams to bed and even if we had Lionel Messi knocking in a couple, we still have to keep them out at the other end.

I see what you are saying mate and I'm not wanting people to think I don't want us to survive, I just feel that the addition of another player or two is nowhere near enough no matter how good they are. We are just rotten.

[Dave]

In return Andy, I see where your coming also. One striker doesn't guarantee anything, for me it's about the ratio of chances created to goals scored, there were at least four chances plus at Cheltenham, two I can remember v Newport, and from listening to the radio perhaps a couple of decent chances created at York, even if we had stuck 50% of chances away we have five more points and unbeaten in four games.

The problem is we have two players in Stockley and Enoch who are both players I would refer to as forwards rather than out and out strikers, they are players that create chances for others and weigh in with the odd goal, our strikers are Benyon who's spend most of the last few games with his nose firmly planted in the mud, and Yeoman hasn't had a run in the side.

Yes relegation is now looking likely, but what's frustrating me, is the gap is just 6 points, yep, we're relying on others to lose, but there's enough sides above us struggling right now, we've lost the last two games and gap hasn't grown, four points from our next two games and gap could be down to, two points and everything to play for.

So appears that Stockley is a free loan judging my Matt's post, well bollocks to free loans, yes it's a risk, agree to pay the wages of a goal scorer, it might be a risk that pays huge dividends, relegation will not cost us £800,000, it will eventually cost us that and ultimately more, and that's per year, not a one off cost.

[Magpiegull]

The HE says that we are trying to sign Baily Cargill, an 18-year old defender/left-sided midfielder from Bournemouth before the deadline!

[taxilady]

can he score goals ? All fine keeping them out, but if we can't put a ball in the(ir) net, we can't win !!!!!!!